Sirocco's new and improved 40" vacuum spinner

Jerry just emailed me with the first picture of the just revealed new and improved 40" vacuum spinner. Do not have the spec's yet, but am anxious to see it in action.

Brackets will allow to be mounted to a riding mower, similar to the Swaby.

I am planning on taking a trip down to Jerry's place in San Diego within the next couple weeks. Anyone else interested in joining us, please post what your scheduling looks like. Jerry told me he will make himself available on a Saturday for us.

I am sending a personal invitation to Jerry to join us here on the PWN. Jerry is a true professional with much to offer professionals of our industry.

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Clean County

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Jerry knows his stuff. I know a few guys that have Sirroco vacuum set-ups and they swear by it. This surface machine looks like Jerry has really thought it out and its probably going to be reasonably priced like most of the things he sells.

If you take out of the equation that he builds a surface machine like this to be affordable to most contractors which makes sense.... I don't see why more people don't build Surface machines that the bars are belt driven. They just clean faster. Now step that up to another model would be a belt driven self propelled surface machine. They just work so much faster when dealing with large flatwork jobs.

That said it looks like a good surface machine thats probably pretty affordable where it won't break the bank. If Jerry does a test drive of this surface machine hopefully it gets video taped so we can see it on the net.
 
Several of us will be heading to San Diego in the next couple weeks. You can be sure that I will post video and pictures of it in action John.

Jerry knows his stuff. I know a few guys that have Sirroco vacuum set-ups and they swear by it. This surface machine looks like Jerry has really thought it out and its probably going to be reasonably priced like most of the things he sells.

If you take out of the equation that he builds a surface machine like this to be affordable to most contractors which makes sense.... I don't see why more people don't build Surface machines that the bars are belt driven. They just clean faster. Now step that up to another model would be a belt driven self propelled surface machine. They just work so much faster when dealing with large flatwork jobs.

That said it looks like a good surface machine thats probably pretty affordable where it won't break the bank. If Jerry does a test drive of this surface machine hopefully it gets video taped so we can see it on the net.
 

Sirocco Jerry

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40" Vacuuming Surface Cleaner

Thanks for the support.. we work hard for that. :)

The deck, has taken a LONG time to develop ..but Patents Pending,
and here are the results..

If you’re going to push it with a handle..
It works with our SGV 3-16hp vacuum at 150 feet of 2†vac-hose (“umbilicalâ€)..
I suggest a 23hp vac for power to spare, or irregular surfaces.
..and go to 31hp if you want to go fast, or beyond 200ft.
I recommend 8 gpm 3500psi min, to 14 gpm max.

When the deck is in a mower.. run 14gpm, with 31+ hp vac, 200ft hose,
and I believe you can expect 20,000 sq.ft. per hour or better !.
..’cause the mower won’t be slowed by a little irregularity in the “flat-surfaceâ€.
Beyond that still needs to be tested.
Also, it will work better and more easily with 2½†vac hose.

Price for the first 10 units to my friends in the blogs.. $ 3495. each,
or $2995. for anyone that has an SGV series Sirocco Vacuum system.
They have a simplistic mounting bracket for retrofit- install.. Call me for details.
I’m going to recommend a selling price through dealers at $3995.
plus, the install, onto the mower you purchase separately.
You provide the mower.. Install is provided separately, or you Do-It-Yourself.
I will ask all of you to report back, the performance on your jobsite,
..including video clips, and photos as possible. ..directly to me.
..and call us with every question, issue, or suggestion.
I’ve done the hard part.. I’ve made ‘em as efficient as possible.
Now, I need you to “drive it†and tell me “how fast YOU can goâ€.
The only thing that held me up in this project was the mower..
..because I don’t specialize in mowers. YOU need to choose that..
Most of you will choose a used one to save cost, and mount the deck yourselves anyway.

We aim to be your favorite supplier. ..directly, or through your favorite dealer.
 
Thanks Jerry for the detailed response, and welcome to the PWN !!!

Can I ask the Admin's to correct my mistake of the spelling of Sirroco in the title of this thread please. I blame it on my fat, chubby finders, and/or lack of sleep.

[tie]
 

New Look

Registerd User
Thanks Jerry for the detailed response, and welcome to the PWN !!!

Can I ask the Admin's to correct my mistake of the spelling of Sirroco in the title of this thread please. I blame it on my fat, chubby finders, and/or lack of sleep.

[tie]

Done!

That is a nice cleaner there.....
 

New Look

Registerd User
Several of us will be heading to San Diego in the next couple weeks. You can be sure that I will post video and pictures of it in action John.

Let me know....I will make the trip. Hopefully it is scheduled when I am in L.A./Vegas on our monthlys.....wouldn't be much for me to continue down I-5 into San "Dog" to met Jerry
 

New Look

Registerd User
Thanks for the support.. we work hard for that. :)

The deck, has taken a LONG time to develop ..but Patents Pending,
and here are the results..

If you’re going to push it with a handle..
It works with our SGV 3-16hp vacuum at 150 feet of 2†vac-hose (“umbilicalâ€)..
I suggest a 23hp vac for power to spare, or irregular surfaces.
..and go to 31hp if you want to go fast, or beyond 200ft.
I recommend 8 gpm 3500psi min, to 14 gpm max.

When the deck is in a mower.. run 14gpm, with 31+ hp vac, 200ft hose,
and I believe you can expect 20,000 sq.ft. per hour or better !.
..’cause the mower won’t be slowed by a little irregularity in the “flat-surfaceâ€.
Beyond that still needs to be tested.
Also, it will work better and more easily with 2½†vac hose.

Price for the first 10 units to my friends in the blogs.. $ 3495. each,
or $2995. for anyone that has an SGV series Sirocco Vacuum system.
They have a simplistic mounting bracket for retrofit- install.. Call me for details.
I’m going to recommend a selling price through dealers at $3995.
plus, the install, onto the mower you purchase separately.
You provide the mower.. Install is provided separately, or you Do-It-Yourself.
I will ask all of you to report back, the performance on your jobsite,
..including video clips, and photos as possible. ..directly to me.
..and call us with every question, issue, or suggestion.
I’ve done the hard part.. I’ve made ‘em as efficient as possible.
Now, I need you to “drive it†and tell me “how fast YOU can goâ€.
The only thing that held me up in this project was the mower..
..because I don’t specialize in mowers. YOU need to choose that..
Most of you will choose a used one to save cost, and mount the deck yourselves anyway.

We aim to be your favorite supplier. ..directly, or through your favorite dealer.

Hey Jerry.....how much does this weigh?
 

Mark

Moderator / Sponsor
Carlos,

Yes we handle Jerry's vac recovery equipment,
I am waiting to hear back from Jerry on dealer price
on this 40" unit.

I expect to post some specials on Sirocco units
soon.
 
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Sirocco Jerry

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Thanks Jerry for the detailed response, and welcome to the PWN !!!

Can I ask the Admin's to correct my mistake of the spelling of Sirroco in the title of this thread please. I blame it on my fat, chubby finders, and/or lack of sleep.
[tie]

Thanks again Jim, for the intro 'n all. :)

We'll have pricing hooked-up with Easy Clean shortly.

And to answer the weight question..

The deck was made to be as beefy as possible, without being overweight.
kevlar-reinforced fiberglass, stainless and aluminum hardware, etc.
I was hoping it would weigh less than 125lbs..
..that's why I wasn't expecting it to be pushable.

actual weight.. is only 85lbs !

and it actually IS pushable !
 

New Look

Registerd User
Thanks again Jim, for the intro 'n all. :)

We'll have pricing hooked-up with Easy Clean shortly.

And to answer the weight question..

The deck was made to be as beefy as possible, without being overweight.
kevlar-reinforced fiberglass, stainless and aluminum hardware, etc.
I was hoping it would weigh less than 125lbs..
..that's why I wasn't expecting it to be pushable.

actual weight.. is only 85lbs !

and it actually IS pushable !

Thanks Jerry!!
 

810F250

New Member
Great work Jerry, looking forward to the demo video.

This link has your 21" SC used in a garage, the tech moves it very easy. With zero run off !!(in the area that was cleaned during the recording)

YouTube - Power Washing & Water Reclaim Mobile Cleaning System

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Sirocco Jerry

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that's $16,000 per week ! ..at only 2 cents per foot !

Nigel,
That's the result I aim for in a small, or mid-size Vacuuming Surface Cleaner.
The 40" was planned to be the Maxi-version without going to a multi-deck system.
Irregular surfaces make 98% reclaim impossible, without going to articulating deck.
An "air-seal" at the surface requires huge, (AKA.. expensive) vacuuan m.

Here's how far I got with the 40" deck..
I wasn't expecting to be able to "push" the deck..
While testing its ability to reclaim instantly, we put the handle on it, and realized..
..on flat, smooth surfaces, it can be pushed, and reclaims just fine,
..with a 16hp vacuum, ..and about 150 feet of 2" vac hose.
That is efficiency ! .. but the floor has to be slippery-smooth-level,
..like a well-sealed warehouse, shopping center or stadium.

On uneven surfaces, you can get 95-98% reclaim, until you hit a high-spot in the surface.
..where "pushing it" is impossible.. It binds, and is immoveable. period.

for the "intended application".. of mounting it in a mower,
It will work very well, since it reclaims nicely with a surprizingly small (AKA.. affordable) vacuum.
Applying enough HP to pull it at a partially-dragging position will be easy for the mower.
the wheels allow it to overcome uneven surfaces to a reasonable point, but this tool will be for large,
"resonably" smooth concrete.. pool decks, tennis courts, strip malls, shopping centers, parking garages etc.
the trim-work will still require smaller tools on the site,
but let's face it.. a 3-man crew running at 20,000 sq.ft. per hour can make $750 per hour gross..
that's $16,000 per week ! ..at only 2 cents per foot !

I'd be posting a demo right now, if the concrete around our building wasn't so clean !
We couldn't get a shot of the unit being pushed fast enough to leave turbo-stripes.
You will be impressed..
with 8 gpm we had no stripes at 2ft per second..
which equals 24,000 ft per hour by itself.
I'm expecting it to go faster at more gpm ( ..to 12 gpm max).

I'll have to drag it to a spot elsewhere, so I can show you how fast it goes without making stripes.
Video of that, will happen as soon as I can get 8 to 12gpm at 3500psi or better, to a dirty stripmall.
 

New Look

Registerd User
Good thread...good thread. Thanks for sharing Jerry.

.02 a sq...........imagine the $$$$$ if your cost per sq. is in the ball park of .15 - .20 a sq....just saying.

Jim....let me know when you plan on going to San Diego!!!

You know Jerry, Mark has the same problem at Easy Clean (Clean Concrete)...every time I go to his shop all the concrete outside his showroom and warehouse is SPOTLESS!! LOL
 

810F250

New Member
Jerry, what is the smallest angle nozzle that this SC can use without leaving an uncleaned area between the two spinner arms? Can zeros be used?
 

Sirocco Jerry

New Member
"sustainable Workspeed"

Nigel,
the goal is not to use a zero degree nozzle spinning at super-sonic swivel-wear.
I believe a 25 degree nozzle, with a reasonable swivel speed will last laonger,
and allow you to clean faster, with a reasonable level of clean..
remember..
the customer only wants to pay you "70% of the money, for 80% of clean"

..It's a good thing you have someone like me to lead the engineering of
increased workspeed. Eh?
 

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