Hey Everyone,
I guess I am a little uncomfortable about making any remarks that are too negative. But in this case I feel I should step up. I am going to fill you in on how I feel about the whole thing.
In regards to other bbs I have no problem with any of them. As Ron stated on his bbs this is a competition, and he is going to give this bbs a run for its money. Well I don't see it that way.
I'm in no contest, which to me is a silly statement. But to each his own. I did at one time have an issue with Delco. They didn’t allow me on their bbs so I would allow them to post here.
That has been settle a while back via conversation with Larry. As far as I know there isn't an issue any longer.
I do however have a problem with RON. I'll tell you why. In 3 years there was only 2 members banned from this bbs. Lightning Clean and Ron. That doesn't include a few commercial people. So that should show you, one has to work really hard to get the boot.
We all know why Lightning Clean was banned. But many of you may not know why Ron was banned. When this bbs started it started with a few simple rules. They have been consistent from day one. Towards the end Ron’s existents, he continually went against them and started to post negative comments against this community. It got way out of hand. I won’t go into detail but it really was way too much.
I felt like I was chasing around a little kid. Believe me when I say I tried every possible way not to boot him. You know how Ron gets with his persistent nature. Well when it comes in a negative way it's just as aggressive and persistent
So be it. Ron started his own bbs, so what. I personally don't care what he does. He seemed to think it was a fear I had. Well I don't fear the other boards and support most.
The reason I don't support Ron or his bbs is because I have seen a side of him I don't care for and he continues his antics today. What you are hearing from Cody is right on the money. It actually makes me feel good to see others see it too. For the most part if it didn’t directly affect me I probably could careless. But his antics do directly affect me. I will list them below.
I do not want to have anything to do with someone that is conniving, (for fun, look that word up) deceitful and unethical. I will post a list below of the things this guy has done and continues to do. That directly affects me and I believe our community. I think it’s time I say enough and at least let people know my side, since I’m sure he tells his, lies and all. Along with his around the back remarks on his bbs.
This list contains things that have happen in the recent past and continue today I’m sure. I feel that these things are way out of line and are just dirty. I have kept my mouth shut for the most part. But feel I should enlighten everyone now. Because I feel it's important if someone is trying to discredit me and this community I have a right to stick up for it.
These are not opinions, they are facts. I am posting them in defense. Meaning I have had many, many members and others in the industry contact me with this information over the past few months. Along with what I know directly.
This is not an attempt to discredit Ron or his bbs. This is again stating facts. I feel that we are a family here in many ways and if this has happened to you. I would expect you to tell me. Plus as stated above. Scott says he has no knowledge of wrong doing on Ron’s part.
I encourage everyone to take this information and define it in your own way. I personally feel people can do and go where ever they want on the Internet. This isn't about that. Everyone has different principals. People can only make decisions on the information they have and believe. So I thought I would enlighten.
- Since and probably before, Ron’s departure from this bbs. He has made relentless phone calls to members and commercial associates trying to discredit me and the bbs. When I mean relentless I mean up to 20 calls per person, until he’s successful
Ron calls our sponsors and solicits information regarding sponsor fees. Then contacts other sponsors of ours and tells them I’m ripping them off. Dan’s only charging so an so this or that.
Ron calls our sponsors and tells them to spend their money elsewhere or open there own community. Dan's a crook. Who makes a tone of money from the site!
My answer to that False, I don’t make squat and when and if I do I put it right back into the site. I think that’s obvious. However if I did; so what. Wish me a million will ya (he he)
Ron has around 10 aliases’ give or take on the Power Wash Network. His latest is keepmeout. He uses them to solicit people to his site instead of working hard and earning them. He does this via email and private message. He had 57 private messages before I caught him. They all contain information about his bbs and negative remarks about ours. Also asking questions such as how did you find this bbs and this board sucks, try Ron’s board. All this is done under false pretences. His favorite name was Bob.
If you noticed the question on his board, how did you hear about this site? Well some of you heard about Ron site through Bob. AKA Ron, Ron Marshall, Ron Musgrave’s and what ever else. Yep, Bob is Ron or Ron is Bob. Depends on how you look at it. I’ll show you the IP if you want. Along with all the others.
Why he felt he had to be someone else to bash this site through or email and private messaging system and inform others about his? You got me! The killer is he was using our community too do this. Then sits over their acting like mister freedom good guy.
I asked him to stop doing this and his reply was I can do what I want. I’m not stealing or doing anything wrong. I can’t steal what I already own. Referring to The Power Wash Network. I’m thinking OK LANCE. That was the last conversation I had with him. I had no response to a ridiculous statement like that. If someone thinks it’s ok to build their bbs by using fake names and another sites email and private message system to rip them and praise there own. Then feel there is nothing wrong with it. Well that’s not ok with me. You’ll also find bob on other sites.
I know we talked about the Auction thing, and I read some of the support he got. Well I can see the view of the members that backed him. Without knowing the truth. But truth is. I by accident sent him a test email from the auction. With in minutes he puts a post up as if he has created this idea and wants everyone’s opinion. Yep, it’s petty, but combined with all the others stuff it looked magnified to me.
He will do anything to get what he wants. Everyone on these boards are grown people. I am in no way trying to sway you one way or the other. Make your own mind up if this is the type of person you want to hang with.
The bbs has nothing to do with it. I supported Mike’s new board because he’s a great guy and all the rest for different reasons. I have written long articles, commending Delco and Larry for starting this whole internet idea.
It’s Ron, that’s it. I am surprised that many seem to not see this. That’s why I am glad to see time from time. Others state what I have seen. Sometime there posts are as if they read my mind. As Cody and Richard stated, similar things that he has done to them or that they have witnessed. I really don’t want to get into a he said she said. These are fact and I felt like I was forced to say something. It’s just a matter of time and he will probably do it to someone else. If he’s not doing it already.
I feel if you want to build a community, do it the right way. Honestly through hard work. Not deceit and bashing under fake names and false pretences. Then run to your board with can’t we all just get along, this bbs freedom stuff. (Well no Ron, not when you conduct yourself the way you do!
I am not kidding you when I say I can go on and on, regarding before Ron was gone and after he has gone. It is the most ridiculous thing I have had to deal with. Life goes on.
Regardless of what he tells you. What I’m telling you is true. I personally feel he is a strange, unethical conniver. I don’t want to be associated with him or his bbs in anyway. I wish he would just go away. I also wish he would stop spending and unbelievable amount of time concentrating on me and this bbs. He mentions me and our community in many of his post in a round about way. Or he takes posts from here and post them over their. WHY Give me a break will ya. The toughest thing about this post I’m writing. Is the fact that this is right up his alley. I know it has been killing him I have not said anything in months since his bbs. I hate to give him the satisfaction. But like I said. Enough with the one sided stuff.
I wouldn’t have a problem if he just does his thing without including me, whether that's directly or indirectly. Stop calling people an bashing me, don’t use our bbs to bash and solicit, stop signing up to our bbs under fake names, stop calling our sponsor and asking personal questions, stop calling sponsors and telling them to go elsewhere and that I’m ripping them off, stop call our members and bashing us and stop with the round about remarks on your bbs. Well I take that back. I can deal with the last one 
- We as community have built this bbs through hard work and the financial support from me for 2 years. Then with the support from members and sponsor as of the last year
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I guess my point is this. I don’t like the fact someone would lie, use fake names & this bbs private message system to bash and solicit, call sponsors and bash us and divulge information other sponsors told him, along with all the above and half the stuff I didn’t mention. Then act like mister nice guy freedom boy.
I have a problem with that and I’m sure most of you if in the same boat would too. So read into this, what you want. It’s the truth and now you know why I have a problem with Ron & his bbs and not the others.
Just so you know up front, this was well thought out and not intended as an attack. These are facts and I am just sick of it and surprised an adult could act this way. Along with just plain tired of it. So please understand this took me along time to bring up. I just felt like I should at this point. I personally will not look down at anyone that deals with Ron. I just have had it and will not.
I hope from this point on, we can just forget this crap and move on.
Happy Holidays, Hey 4 weeks until my miracle arrives
P.S. Mike Hughes. Sorry I have not got back to you. I can get email but it will not go out. MSN stinks and it’s time to get the cable modem.
