Do we really need a Organization ? (poll)

Do You really need an organization to help your business.

  • YES

    Votes: 37 42.0%
  • NO

    Votes: 33 37.5%
  • I can make just as much $ without it

    Votes: 17 19.3%
  • I can't make any money without it

    Votes: 1 1.1%

  • Total voters
    88

Scott Stone

New Member
Gee John, I am sorry that you think I have attacked you.

Perhaps you should go back and read the posts and see who was attacking whom.
 

Tony Evans

Member
John, I could care less whether you think the amount of time I've been here is adequate to be involved. It doesn't take any time at all to see that you manipulate words and outright lie against true leaders. I think you are a petty and jealous individual that feels slighted because contractors don't value you the way they do Ron, Doug, and Scott.
 

Clean County

New Member
John, I could care less whether you think the amount of time I've been here is adequate to be involved. It doesn't take any time at all to see that you manipulate words and outright lie against true leaders. I think you are a petty and jealous individual that feels slighted because contractors don't value you the way they do Ron, Doug, and Scott.
Tony-You are so wrong on your evaluation here....but I am not surprised you would come to this wrongful. conclusion. You obviousy like the drama to keep coming up with stuff your clueless on.

But to correct you above-- Me & Ron always had a mixed bag relationship. Neither one of us are ass kissers if you get my drift. As for Doug, we are so different and I am thankful for that. Scott on the other hand is a major disappointment.....and I'll leave it at that.

Anymore wrongful conclusions you want to make up just to stir the Pot like you do for no other reason except out of self satisfaction Your on your own kid.
 

Tony Evans

Member
John, John, John. I must have touched a nerve. If anyone here is stirring drama it would be the guy who said he was leaving this board when Doug took over only to stick around and cast aspersions at everyone.
 

Clean County

New Member
John, John, John. I must have touched a nerve. If anyone here is stirring drama it would be the guy who said he was leaving this board when Doug took over only to stick around and cast aspersions at everyone.

Lol.. your funny Tony.. I have no idea why your not to we'll liked in the industry. .LOLOL..

On a more serious note since your a newbie here I decided not to burn my bridge with PWN & it's founder Dan Flynn (I wonder if that's going to change now)..LOL.. Just having fun..
 

Scott Stone

New Member
Yep, Scott is a sensitive guy, who tends to get angry when people make fun of him repeatedly, make false accusations about him or his company, and state that he is a liar. Since you claim not to kiss anyone's ass, perhaps you could stop kissing Jim's ass, and look at a few facts. Of course, I guess a little research is not your strong suit, and heaven help us if your research discovers that your narrative is at a minimum wrong, let alone a flat out lie.

Just leave me alone John. I don't even make statements without provocation. Maybe it is a weakness of mine. I would be really happy if you never mentioned my name again on a public forum.
 

Clean County

New Member
My one regret Scott Stone..is I wish Jim never told me about that article you were writing for a magazine about Parking garages. You called him for some input on this & that's where all the trouble started afterwords. Unfortunately I got used by both of you over this probably because I moderated/administrated multiple bulletin boards then so I had some public clout. This wasn't my fight & I was dragged into it.

I will apologize here (something your incapable of doing ) for trying to get you two to stop fighting continously from that point forward. I pleaded with you numerous time's to leave me out of this but it fell on deaf ears. So I am apologizing for ever listening to either one of you. It was never my fight & in the end we all lost some friends over this & our reputations took a hit even though you will obviously say otherwise.
 

Tony Evans

Member
Lol.. your funny Tony.. I have no idea why your not to we'll liked in the industry. .LOLOL..

On a more serious note since your a newbie here I decided not to burn my bridge with PWN & it's founder Dan Flynn (I wonder if that's going to change now)..LOL.. Just having fun..
People don't like me John? I'm shocked, lol.
Truly I don't care if a few sycophants for your buddies don't like me.

I've noticed you like to live in the past. For instance when the UAMCC comes up you throw out Robert's name. Lately you've been throwing out Dan's name. In both cases it's ancient history that has zero bearing on anything going on in the here and now.
First off you have no bridges here. You are tolerated for now and that will no doubt change if you can't learn to be respectful of the owner.
Secondly, you can keep throwing out terms like newbie and kid at me all day long but you are too insignificant to intimidate me.
 

Clean County

New Member
I respect & like History Tony.... You may not....but you sure like to get your nose in where it doesn't belong like in this post....but that's you..lol
 

Tony Evans

Member
That's where you couldn't be more wrong, John. I have as much right to be involved here as you. You're just upset that your history in the industry doesn't impress me. I see it as a warning of what not to become.
 

Clean County

New Member
That's where you couldn't be more wrong, John. I have as much right to be involved here as you. You're just upset that your history in the industry doesn't impress me. I see it as a warning of what not to become.
Lol.. Tony believe me you don't upset me at all here because I don't care what you think about something that you have no business butting your nose into. You sure having a problem understanding this..
 

Tony Evans

Member
No problem here. I just disagree with your assessment that I'm butting in. You don't have to like it but as long as your here you'll have to live with it.
 

Scott Stone

New Member
Jim is full of cow excrement. I never called him up for information. He did try and take credit for everything in the article, after it was written. I did use one thing in the article about increasing regulation in California, and turned out to be false. I wish I would have credited him, however, he would have been foolish to want credit, if he had been truthful, because it would have damaged his supposed relationships with regulators.
I will tell you what he did do.after my article was published, he had an article ghost written and hammered the publisher of the parking magazine until he published it the next month. Incidentally, he was mad because I had known about the magazine and had not told him about it.
As for being able to apologize, I am very capable he I have something to apologize for. I have been happier for 27 years too wife that is very strong willed, I better know how to say I am sorry. Problem is, in regards to you, Jim and the rest of the platoon of clowns, I have no reason to apologize.
As many defamatory, insulting and false statements as you, Jim, Rob and others have made about me, and my business, you should hang your head in shame.
Incidentally, can you explain how it is that I am jealous of Jim, when he is putting hot words up that have nothing to do with where he lives, or the work he does, but are obviously sspecifically targeted at me? I mean come on, even you are not so obtuse to realize that when he puts bus stop as a hot word, that he is targeting me..
 

Ron Musgraves

Administrator
Staff member
Jim is full of cow excrement. I never called him up for information. He did try and take credit for everything in the article, after it was written. I did use one thing in the article about increasing regulation in California, and turned out to be false. I wish I would have credited him, however, he would have been foolish to want credit, if he had been truthful, because it would have damaged his supposed relationships with regulators.
I will tell you what he did do.after my article was published, he had an article ghost written and hammered the publisher of the parking magazine until he published it the next month. Incidentally, he was mad because I had known about the magazine and had not told him about it.
As for being able to apologize, I am very capable he I have something to apologize for. I have been happier for 27 years too wife that is very strong willed, I better know how to say I am sorry. Problem is, in regards to you, Jim and the rest of the platoon of clowns, I have no reason to apologize.
As many defamatory, insulting and false statements as you, Jim, Rob and others have made about me, and my business, you should hang your head in shame.
Incidentally, can you explain how it is that I am jealous of Jim, when he is putting hot words up that have nothing to do with where he lives, or the work he does, but are obviously sspecifically targeted at me? I mean come on, even you are not so obtuse to realize that when he puts bus stop as a hot word, that he is targeting me..


Great Post Scott
 

Clean County

New Member
Jim is full of cow excrement. I never called him up for information. He did try and take credit for everything in the article, after it was written. I did use one thing in the article about increasing regulation in California, and turned out to be false. I wish I would have credited him, however, he would have been foolish to want credit, if he had been truthful, because it would have damaged his supposed relationships with regulators.
I will tell you what he did do.after my article was published, he had an article ghost written and hammered the publisher of the parking magazine until he published it the next month. Incidentally, he was mad because I had known about the magazine and had not told him about it.
As for being able to apologize, I am very capable he I have something to apologize for. I have been happier for 27 years too wife that is very strong willed, I better know how to say I am sorry. Problem is, in regards to you, Jim and the rest of the platoon of clowns, I have no reason to apologize.
As many defamatory, insulting and false statements as you, Jim, Rob and others have made about me, and my business, you should hang your head in shame.
Incidentally, can you explain how it is that I am jealous of Jim, when he is putting hot words up that have nothing to do with where he lives, or the work he does, but are obviously sspecifically targeted at me? I mean come on, even you are not so obtuse to realize that when he puts bus stop as a hot word, that he is targeting me..


Just what I figured you say with your "I'm right and everbody else is wrong" attitude". You were never like this until you snagged some nice bus stop contracts and your continuing war with Jim all over the net. You got so bad with this stuff you felt the need to attack friends such as Beth Boreggo who's always had a kind heart to help or listen to anyone. Somewhere in here you should have stopped and took a good look at yourself in the mirror and said "What happened to me" instead of getting this "Holier then Thou" attitude and act like you did nothing wrong here but everyone else did. I already took some blame by not being strong enough to stay out of yours & Jim's personal fight when I asked you both to stop dragging me in. Thats on me....... Your good deed here(in your mind) was to ban me off of PWI because I did the Vegas Parking Garage event with Jim..... I was right in the middle of promoting it & bang banned for life by you. You really need to look in that mirror & accept some blame here...but you won't. You posting how you pretty much **** canned that signed Ruth Pic pretty much shows how you changed for the worse. I would never ever stoop to those levels just for self satisfaction. Major difference from me to you.

To explain your Jealousy towards Jim it has started with him pretty much laughing at you crying all over the net about him making 26+cents as' cleaning garages. You actually invited Jim to your Arizona RT & he gave you....nothing. Its your fault to get roped into Jim's madness and take it so personally. I could careless if Jim's makes that or not...but you on the other hand was enamored by that until he gave you Zilch at your roundtable. So your deep seated problems here is with him....but you already know this.
 

Tony Evans

Member
John, your calling Beth a good person? The woman who willy nilly bans folks from her bulletin board for no reason? Something you are attacking others here for I might add. You really don't have a clue. You're just someone's pawn and they are sitting back laughing at you right now.
 

Clean County

New Member
John, your calling Beth a good person? The woman who willy nilly bans folks from her bulletin board for no reason? Something you are attacking others here for I might add. You really don't have a clue. You're just someone's pawn and they are sitting back laughing at you right now.

Lol...you just can't help yourself..LOL. Have to say your good for the laugh because you just can't seem to help yourself butting into other peoples business for such a Newbie here. I will no longer respond to you here because its clear your clueless & your just trying to keep the drama going to help raise this bulletins board rankings. Not going to work kid....because like they say in "Shark Tank" I"m out..dealing with you. LOL
 

Scott Stone

New Member
Show me where I attacked Beth? She's mad because you and your clown posse were attacking me on TGS so I reported the post. She said she didn't care and was busy, and would take care of it when she had time. A week or so later, some people said things on PWI that she didn't like. I copied and pasted her response, and all the sudden I am a terrible human being and a poor excuse for a man. If a knife cuts one way, it will cut another.
As for Jim getting 26 cents a foot, I still don't believe it. He MAY have gotten that much for one garage, then he subbed it out for a tenth of that. If he is able to get it great, but I prefer long term sustainable relationships.
As for my large contract, I don't think I have changed. I thin that your and yours have changed because of your personal jealousy, but that should be motivation to get better, instead of attacking someone that managed to get it done.
By the way, if you had ever heard me present at a round table, you would find that I am pretty open about everything. Even when I was in Phoenix, and they were all local contractors.

Now you will excuse me. I my mechanic found another job, so I get to play mechanic and get things going.
 

Ron Musgraves

Administrator
Staff member
Just what I figured you say with your "I'm right and everbody else is wrong" attitude". You were never like this until you snagged some nice bus stop contracts and your continuing war with Jim all over the net. You got so bad with this stuff you felt the need to attack friends such as Beth Boreggo who's always had a kind heart to help or listen to anyone. Somewhere in here you should have stopped and took a good look at yourself in the mirror and said "What happened to me" instead of getting this "Holier then Thou" attitude and act like you did nothing wrong here but everyone else did. I already took some blame by not being strong enough to stay out of yours & Jim's personal fight when I asked you both to stop dragging me in. Thats on me....... Your good deed here(in your mind) was to ban me off of PWI because I did the Vegas Parking Garage event with Jim..... I was right in the middle of promoting it & bang banned for life by you. You really need to look in that mirror & accept some blame here...but you won't. You posting how you pretty much **** canned that signed Ruth Pic pretty much shows how you changed for the worse. I would never ever stoop to those levels just for self satisfaction. Major difference from me to you.

To explain your Jealousy towards Jim it has started with him pretty much laughing at you crying all over the net about him making 26+cents as' cleaning garages. You actually invited Jim to your Arizona RT & he gave you....nothing. Its your fault to get roped into Jim's madness and take it so personally. I could careless if Jim's makes that or not...but you on the other hand was enamored by that until he gave you Zilch at your roundtable. So your deep seated problems here is with him....but you already know this.


JIm was not Seasoned washer at the PHX roundtable, maybe Jim owned Crystal for years but he did not wash. This was very evident
 

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