Tony Evans
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John, you have no credibility here at all.
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Check out this this free event.
Do we really need a Organization ? (poll)
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Clean County
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You ask for proof & you got it. So now you know.
Tony Evans
Member
We already knew you are a liar, John. After that nothing you post has any validity.
Clean County
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Man your Angry & you even asked for proof & got it and your still angry....lol The truth hurts but you'll get over it maybe after your second week on this bulletin board noob..lol
It also occurred to me that you run your own bulletin board as well & you like to drive up ratings by calling people names like your doing here... you don't need to be responded to anymore here.
Tony Evans
Member
Does that mean your finally leaving John? Good riddance
Clean County
New Member
Nope it means I won't be responding to you son when you attack people. By the way Chris says hello.
Tony Evans
Member
Unlike you I haven't attacked anyone. I really only have one question for you, what meds are you on? Clearly they aren't working.
Oh and I knew that you be sharing everything I say with your buddies and frankly I don't care. I left that nest of vipers behind years ago and found a group of real contractors who know what they're talking about. Guys that are about education not lining their pockets like your group.
Oh and I knew that you be sharing everything I say with your buddies and frankly I don't care. I left that nest of vipers behind years ago and found a group of real contractors who know what they're talking about. Guys that are about education not lining their pockets like your group.
Clean County
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Lol.. are you on Meds? Why are you so Angry? I haven't told anyone about this thread so your being paranoid. Relax noob you'll get adjusted after you get up to around a 100 post here. Take baby steps & you'll be fine.
Tony Evans
Member
John, this is just one of many forums I've been on over the years. My post count has nothing to do with anything. The fact that I've moderated my fair share of boards and FB groups allows me to recognize you for the troll you are.
Clean County
New Member
Lol... Your noob inexperience is showing. Think hard for a second Tony E. & don't hurt yourself....LOL. Do you even know what a troll is? I've been here since 2000 & got at least 40 guys then including myself to donate to this site to help the Founder Dan Flynn here. Since your trolling here you have no clue who he is do you?
I also created bulletin boards for orgs, administrator some of the them including your orgs, and was at least a super mod on all of the Industry bulletin boards including TGS & PWI for 10yrs each. So you being a newbie your way way out of your league.
I also want you to know I checked out your window PWI bb & I did troll there but never responded. When I saw you attacking members there I knew it wasn't a place for me.
So since you only been here a week & you have attacked Mike H. which Doug corrected you on & your attacking me continously it stands to reason newbie your the troll.....who's got some serious anger issues no doubt.
Clean County
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Has anyone looked at the Poll attached to this thread? The majority of the votes are we don't need an org to better our business..... Probably should put up another thread with a poll today to see if that's changed since then.
Tony Evans
Member
John, you seem to like living in the past. However this board started it's now run by Doug who will no doubt make a place where your type of antics will eventually get you tossed out.
The biggest thing that eludes you is that no one cares what you used to do. It's all about what you are doing now. In the here and now your just a bitter man who is attacking quality contractors, including the owner of this board. In the here and now you spend all you effort trying to convince us that you were wronged somehow years ago and that until that is fixed the world has to stop spinning.
We've all been wronged by people at one point or another. We can either be adults by learning from the experience and move on or we can become you.
The biggest thing that eludes you is that no one cares what you used to do. It's all about what you are doing now. In the here and now your just a bitter man who is attacking quality contractors, including the owner of this board. In the here and now you spend all you effort trying to convince us that you were wronged somehow years ago and that until that is fixed the world has to stop spinning.
We've all been wronged by people at one point or another. We can either be adults by learning from the experience and move on or we can become you.
Clean County
New Member
Your almost right here except your very last inexperience newbie type response which you just cant seem to help yourself so I'll hold your hand here & help you out. No one likes to get "F'd" over & when that happens it's not forgotten. I was clearly wronged here & I'm getting attacked for it which makes no sense. So I'll stand up to whoever wants to slander me,my family or my friends. So that's what your getting here. I asked Doug to lift my bans & he refused. He's told me I'll never be allowed to be a part of the UAMCC (which I helped bring to you guys) as long as he's involved. He also disregarded I was a UAMCC admin like he is & his response is I'm banned for life from that as well. So now I see UAMCC guys @ the PWRA events & when they ask me my thoughts on the UAMCC & why I'm not a member....I tell them the truth like I'm telling you. I can't talk positive about this org until they correct the wrong here & to be "frank" here it's stupid on your leaders part to not correct this.
I may never join or be a part of the UAMCC again even though I have a ton of friends in there like John Orr (you probably don't know him because of your newbie status) but.... I will forever talk negative about them when asked until they lift any bans I have there it's as simple as that.
Fool me once shame on you but fool me twice shame on me & my personality will not allow me to get fooled twice or ever get walked on----So once again----Now you know and keep your Nasty/Angry remarks to yourself unless you got something positive to add which you probably just can't do..but prove me wrong if you can.
tonyshelton
Member
John, here is the difference between the people you trust and defend so much, and the ones you hate. Five years ago, in a hotel somewhere in Georgia Ron had just gotten off the phone with you. It was a pivotal point regarding the state of the UAMCC. Ron had a choice. He could leave you with the partial information you had and allow you to go off on a half cocked rant with false information. That rant would have been beneficial to Ron and me. Leaving it like that would have helped us, but would have, in effect, used you. We discussed the situation and decided allowing you to go on with partial information, while beneficial to us in that case, would have been unethical on our part. Ron called you back and treated you like a man instead of a pawn by giving you all the facts. We determined at that point that remaining silent even when it goes to our benefit, is unethical. The best course of action is just to simply reveal the whole truth, even if it isn't to our benefit. That way no man, within our industry, is used as a pawn. Over the years you have shown that you don't appreciate that honesty. Maybe it isn't exciting enough for you. Maybe it is too boring and doesn't produce enough drama. But for whatever reason, you prefer those who LIE to you and use you for their benefit. That night in a comfort suites with Ron sealed my eternal friendship and respect for Ron. He showed me that night that, regardless of any attacks coming from you or anyone else, he was unwilling to stoop the the level of allowing someone like yourself to make a fool of themselves just to advance his own cause. I have seen similar high ethics from your other arch enemies, Doug and Scott. Robert and Jim feed you lies and garbage while playing on your ego and desire to be important. We have never done that. We have been truthful when it is good, and truthful when it hurts. I hope one day you can realize that.
Yes I'm headed back to pwi this place is a reck! Doug's got his hand full with this crowd ! Lol
Tony Evans
Member
You're right Mark. I apologize that I allowed myself to get pulled into this nonsense. As I've often said in dealing with other people like the one in this thread, you can't fix stupid.
I'd love to post more here but I don't want what could be helpful information derailed by someone who's sole intent is to distract with supposed past wrongs. Once that individual is gone I'm sure more will post here.
I'd love to post more here but I don't want what could be helpful information derailed by someone who's sole intent is to distract with supposed past wrongs. Once that individual is gone I'm sure more will post here.
Clean County
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Yup you can't fix stupid but I did try to help the lost puppy.
Thanks Ron & Tony S. for keeping it professional here. Tony S. I respect your opinion but I don't agree with it. There's a lot you don't know and assuming things is never good so we'll just agree to disagree.
As far as that Manuscript goes Ron suggested I just ask for the emails thru the freedom of information act. I believe he said there's some type of cost to it. I know there's nothing criminal in there and everything else is subjective & speculative. Since I feel we did nothing wrong it's not worth the effort for me to go after the information act here. Since I can't get it from the UAMCC & The PWNA since this wasn't a PWNA event we'll probably decline as well (once again similarities betw Robert's orgs) I'm moving on from this. The important thing here is the contractors who went to our Vegas Event loved it & gave us glowing reviews and that's what counts in my book
Thanks Ron & Tony S. for keeping it professional here. Tony S. I respect your opinion but I don't agree with it. There's a lot you don't know and assuming things is never good so we'll just agree to disagree.
As far as that Manuscript goes Ron suggested I just ask for the emails thru the freedom of information act. I believe he said there's some type of cost to it. I know there's nothing criminal in there and everything else is subjective & speculative. Since I feel we did nothing wrong it's not worth the effort for me to go after the information act here. Since I can't get it from the UAMCC & The PWNA since this wasn't a PWNA event we'll probably decline as well (once again similarities betw Robert's orgs) I'm moving on from this. The important thing here is the contractors who went to our Vegas Event loved it & gave us glowing reviews and that's what counts in my book
Tony Evans
Member
I think the Charleston event will show exactly why the UAMCC is the only choice for serious education and training.
Clean County
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There's plenty of places to get serious training all thru-out this Industry such as IWCA,PWNA & IKECA orgs just to name a few. Lets not forget all the wood restoration schools there are such as Alliance for example where I got my training from yrs ago.