propane vs. diesel style burners

Clean County

New Member
What are the advantages or disavantages of a propane fired burner vs. a diesel fired burner?? Which do you prefer and which is cheaper to run?

Thanks
 

Mark

Moderator / Sponsor
I prefer a diesel fired burner.

A propane burner of lets say 400,000 to 560,000 BTU
capacity would require about a 100 gallon LPG tank or
larger.

Propane burns cleaner, diesel is easier to find usually,
I have heard of more injuries with LPG fired equipment
than oil fired.

Ultimately it comes down to personal preference.

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Dave Olson

New Member
Hello John,

I've always used Lp for my genset and boiler. I didn't know just how clean Lp was until I put our second unit in service with a K1 burner.

We pay less per gallon for Lp than K1. I think the cost per hour about equals out. As far as getting the fuel, we pick up our own at the local Lp dealer. We have a key to their lot because we clean the truck fleet there. I've been self filling for almost 20 years.

We also have Lp infrared heaters on both our trucks so we do not need to winterize any of the lines.

Dave Olson
 

Clean County

New Member
Mark said:
I prefer a diesel fired burner.

A propane burner of lets say 400,000 to 560,000 BTU
capacity would require about a 100 gallon LPG tank or
larger.

Propane burns cleaner, diesel is easier to find usually,
I have heard of more injuries with LPG fired equipment
than oil fired.

Ultimately it comes down to personal preference.

[hello]

Mark,
What injuries are you talking about concerning those two type of Burners?? Also in the cold months is Propane harder to run then diesel and if so why is that??

Thanks
 

Mark

Moderator / Sponsor
Injuries referred to are due to delayed ignition and or LPG leaks
Propane is heavier than air, in the event of a malfunction or leak
the propane gas does not drift away like natural gas as it is heavy
I have heard of trucks, vans buildings etc. filling with propane gas
and then add a spark and BOOM!

http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=slv1-&p=propane+gas+explosion

Not to say that diesel fired burners are 100% fail safe, I believe one needs to be a little more careful with propane.
 

Clean County

New Member
Thanks Mark.
I like the way David Olsen has gone about his business and I've been tracking him thru the bb's and admiring his set-up and how he has prospered. I've always been curious about LP set-ups and as good as Diesel is LP seems to be very high end. I may be wrong and as always I appreciate your imput. LP set-ups seem to be for the very serious contractor where the margin of error is smaller but the bottom line may be larger. I am at a crossroad......
 

Dave Olson

New Member
Thanks John,

One more note about the Lp system your looking at on Ebay.

When I said that the 100 gallon tank would not support two 750,000 Btu burners, what happens is that the draw of vapor is greater that the tanks ability to make it. You might want to contact an Lp dealer in your area for a chart on tank size and Btu consumption.

Dave Olson
 

Mark

Moderator / Sponsor
It is not the choice of LPG or oil fired that makes
someone a "serious contractor". Yes Dave is very
successful, but I have a hunch he would be just
as successful with diesel fired rigs. :)

Either would work I guess it comes down to
"personal preference".
I would be happy to give you a quotation on either
or both, I can calculate out the LPG tank size needed
also give me a call if you like. :)
 

pressurewash

New Member
diesel vs lp

lp is cleaner and requires less maintnance. The dissadvantages of lp are that to run it very long you would need a very large lp tank or would have to constantly switch bottles. Usually you see lp used in situations where the machine is permanately mounted in a building and they have a large tank (as big as 500gal) on site or in a plant where they need a portable machine and can't have the exhaust of diesel and only need to use it at short intervals of time.
 

headpressure

New Member
I would like to add that LP units are used very little for mobile systems up here in Canada. Besides the dangers that Mark mentioned and the size of tanks required, LP gas just doesn't vaporize well when it's -35°C in the winter which effectively renders a 400KBTU unit useless since it may only deliver 100KBTU if it even lights. And using a liquid propane system with a vaporizer is normally not an option.

Most guys here use diesel fired for mobile.
 

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