Wayne burner issure on Alkota

Colorado

New Member
Hey guys, hoping for some quick help here. I've got 8 pieces of heavy equipment to wash tomorrw early a.m. and my burner is not coming on. I'm a mechanic and have no problem fixing it, but need help diagnosing the problem. I've got NO fuel when I hit the trigger.
Any thoughts?
Josh
 

Colorado

New Member
Yep, fan is turning. Could it be thermostat, pressure switch, or that stupid little solenoid on the fuel pump? How do I eliminate each issue before finding the problem? Found a new fuel pump in Denver for $100, but they are closed tomorrow. Just changed the fuel filter as well and still the same issue. I pulled the pressure side line off to check for fuel flow and got nothing.
 

Mark

Moderator / Sponsor
Josh,

Yes it could be, thermostat, pressure switch or solenoid.
When you say you
pulled the pressure side line off to check for fuel flow and got nothing.
are you saying you tested for fuel flow at pump exit between solenoid and fuel pump? Or between fuel solenoid and burner?
 

Colorado

New Member
Solenoid and burner. I didnt see a place to check between pump and solenoid, where would I look? The solenoid is mounted on top of the pump. Maybe I overlooked it. I'm getting ready to head out, so I'll check before I get on site.
Thanks,
Josh
 

Mark

Moderator / Sponsor
Darn!

Built in solenoid that sucks!
Some units have solenoid attached to the side of fuel pump via a banjo bolt.

Check and see oif you have 115 volts going to the solenoid, when burner is on and
you pull the trigger.......

Attached is a picture of fuel solenoid, this style solenoid attaches to side of fuel
pump via a banjo bolt.
 

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Mark

Moderator / Sponsor
If you do not have power going to the solenoid, it could be pressure switch, or thermostat.

I am assuming this is a 115 volt burner.....

You can call me today by calling 916 638-0828 ext#208, maybe I can help diagnose
where the problem lies.
 

Colorado

New Member
Just finished my job today and had a chance to look at the solenoid and how it mounts. Your correct sir, it has that banjo fitting block. Just havent had time to mess with it yet. I'll be giving you a call for sure, but may not be today. I've still got several hours of welding a stupid whitwater raft frame together in my shop this evening. Thanks again for all your guys help, this forum is awesome for info. BTY: it took me 7.5 hours of washing with heavy de-greaser to complete a 4 hour job without the heat. I need this wayne burner to be my friend again....
Josh
 

Colorado

New Member
I also must have a spelling problem.. Just read the title and I'm a retard, also I dont weld on whitwater frames.. Just WhiteWater ones.
Josh
 

headpressure

New Member
Just some advice for any future problems with your burner. Remember a oil burner needs three things to fire: air, ignition and fuel. If it's short one of these it will be a no go.

The place to check for fuel between either a external mounted solenoid or internal mounted solenoid is at the bleed screw. All Suntec pumps and variants will have one. If the pump is turning and the pump is good then fuel will come out of the bleed screw in a steady stream without air bubbles.

If then after you close the bleed screw and no fuel is going to the nozzle, you definitely have a solenoid issue. You need to check first that power is being applied to the solenoid and if so, you will need to investigate further to see if you need to replace the solenoid coil, the solenoid valve itself or the relief valve in the pump.

This may seem ridiculous but I suggest to the guys around here that cannot afford to be down, (hydro excavators, contract cleaners, etc.) that they always keep a spare fuel pump and solenoid, coupling, ignitor, nozzle and fuel filter on hand to prevent costly downtime. A $200 investment in parts will prevent a $300/hr. job going bad.
 

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