Survey on best quick couplers- come on guys give it to me.

Bryan

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Hello fellow pressure washer dudes.

We've been in the pressure washing industry for 13 years and have used just about every quick coupler made. Since we have been using the concrete surface cleaners more frequently, we are now going through lots of quick couplers and o'rings. We've used Parker, JE Adams, Hanson, Foster etc. We have found that the Fosters brand sucks. They don't hold up. We do like the JE Adams the best and Parkers aren't too bad either. Would like to get the boards input on what brand quick couplers they use and recommend. Or if there are any couplers out there that are more cost effectively durable? Come on guys, give us your comment!!!
Thanks,
Bryan

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Douglas Hicks

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I've had the best success with Adams. Stainless plugs cost more, but last longer. try the 3/8 size, they last longer. Hydraulic couplers from the parts house or tractor shops don't allow enough water through the fittings to be of any use. Ever notice how the o'rings seem to fail just as you get on the roof and the hot water finally gets to the gun?

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Bryan

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Doug,

Thanks for your reply. I didn't know Adams made a stainless steel coupler. How much do you pay for the 1/4 inch and where do you get them? I have been paying about $2.85 ea. for the brass Adams. And would still like to get input from all members.
Thanks
Bryan


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Ethan

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I reallylike the J.E. Adams myself. We have had better luck with them than any other brand. That's just my opinion.

Ethan

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Hotwaterwizard

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Originally posted by Bryan:
Doug,

Thanks for your reply. I didn't know Adams made a stainless steel coupler. How much do you pay for the 1/4 inch and where do you get them? I have been paying about $2.85 ea. for the brass Adams. And would still like to get input from all members.
Thanks
Bryan


concerning the Stainless Steel ones. I showed them to your son in my book. Ask him about them.
Have you ever tried the twist style couplers?


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bgbrew01

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This is just a curosity quesition. What is going bad on the quick connects. I have been using them for eight months and never seen one "go bad". What happens? I always spray mine with WD40 at least once a week, maybe more and never had a problem with one.

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Hotwaterwizard

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Originally posted by bgbrew01:
This is just a curosity quesition. What is going bad on the quick connects. I have been using them for eight months and never seen one "go bad". What happens? I always spray mine with WD40 at least once a week, maybe more and never had a problem with one.

Most of the time the O-ring goes bad. The good news is you can buy new o-rings. I reccomend Viton for hot water.



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Douglas Hicks

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Bryan, sorry for the delay in answering. The only part of a quick coupler where the mfg seems to be important is the coupler end. The plug doesn't seem to be taht important. S/S plugs are available from the unknown company in Ft Worth. I would like some input form those who have used the twist coupler I've seen advertised. Are they any good?

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MBryan

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Doug,

I am getting a shipment of the twist couplers in tomorrow and I will let you know how they work.

Matt

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Mark Dadian

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Doug:

I use twist couplers from the hose to the gun on both my machines. Keep them clean and they connect very easily. They take a little getting used to but NEVER lock up like QC's can.

Have fun.

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Bryan

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Mark,

Yes, I would like to know where you get a twist disconnect coupler as well. Actually, I have never heard of them. What are the heat and pressure ratings of the couplers. Also, if you have the price that you've paid and where they can be purchased or who makes them, that would be terrific! If they are not too expensive and hold up longer than the pop off disconnect couplers, maybe that is the way to go. Your input would be appreciated. Thanks and the best to all of you in the business.
Bryan

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Douglas Hicks

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I bought two sets of Quick Disconnect Swivel Part # SW-504-QD from Fluid Controls Inc jin Jenks, Ok 918.299.0442. I've been using them for a couple of weeks now. They seem to work ok, time will tell. They do come off easily, they don't squirt hot water on me, and are rebuildable. The cost was $20.94 each plus shipping. That is not cheap, but they are rated up to 3500 PSI and 200F. I am going to order more tommorow, and put them on my other hoses.

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Cody

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Originally posted by Douglas Hicks:
I bought two sets of Quick Disconnect Swivel Part # SW-504-QD from Fluid Controls Inc jin Jenks, Ok 918.299.0442. I've been using them for a couple of weeks now. They seem to work ok, time will tell. They do come off easily, they don't squirt hot water on me, and are rebuildable. The cost was $20.94 each plus shipping. That is not cheap, but they are rated up to 3500 PSI and 200F. I am going to order more tommorow, and put them on my other hoses.
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$21 is that each,,Am I missing something here,, are we talking about somekind of QD or what $21 is insane,, I can purchase 10 throwaway's for that,, 10 will last at least 5 years (in one place on my line).

For the other post on this subject..
  • Adams QD's don't suck!
  • I hate stainless couplers, too soft.
  • European couplers are OK
  • Male plugs the tend to mushroom,, keep that filed down and they'll last longer.
  • I stopped disconnecting my hose lenths from one another I always rip off 200' at a time,, thus, screw the QD's in the middle let them stick together for life!
  • QD O-rings,, buy em by the case, use a dental pick to flip em out and to pop em in
  • Lube the female's with white marine silicone lubricant from time to time it helps.

& that's all for Cody on QD's

Cody</FONT c>

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Ron Musgraves

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I never wanted to post my opinion on this subject because I to have had my share of problems with these quick couplers.


Well since Cody has come on board he has been very opinionated about everything. This is not a bad thing. I can deal with guys having different ideals. You like the blue ones and I like green ones. I can handle that all day long.


Hears my opinion on quick disconnects. Eliminate them where ever possible. I only have them at the gun so I can run a surface cleaner. If I did not run a surface cleaner and was still fleet washing I wouldn’t even use them.

If I ran my equipment myself I would use a stainless coupler. They are more expensive but they are harder and do last longer than any other that I know about. I choose to use brass because my employees would loose the stainless before it ever wore out.

American couplers commonly only have three types

Stainless- this is the hardest out of these three types
Steel- steel is just as hard but will not last do to mineral & elements that they come into contact with.

Brass- soft compared to these others and will wear easier than both depending on climate & use. {Brass ones will wear faster than others will being drag around}

I too have used every brand under the sun. I have not found any to last five years or even a few years. I know some of you will say you’ve had yours five years. I believe you have. If you use them they will not last five years. Nor will they last a year. The stainless might last two years. If you’re dragging these around they wont last. Now as Cody said let them freeze up together. This takes me back to my original statement. Why have them in the first place? If you r going to let them corrode together that’s silly.


Cody what European couplers are OK? I know brands that are good and brand that suck. These European couplers are so different in many ways. They have different standards on there equipment and are usually expensive.

Cody,
You said you file these plugs down. Why? They are only $1.50 isn’t your time worth anything?
Buy the steel ones they are stronger and will corrode faster, then you will not need to worry about them as you said they will stick together for life. I would not do that but it seems that might be your advice.


Well I agree that you must lube. I also agree Adams couplers don’t suck.. Hold on though, if we lube them how will they freeze together for life?


If you’re a person confuse about this post I’m sorry. If you’re offended in any way I also apologize. If you read part of this post and take it to serious, just forget about it.


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Mike Hughes

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"I stopped disconnecting my hose lenths from one another I always rip off 200' at a time,, thus, screw the QD's in the middle let them stick together for life!"

I too use 200' of pressure hose on all of my washers.......100' followed by two 50' sections. Cody, I disagree with this advice........ever had a hose blow up on a job? It's frustrating enough dealing with that.....why deal with a "quick" (ya, right) connect that won't disconnect? I try to keep all of them in good working order, so when the time comes, I can get them apart with minimal downtime.

Keep us posted on how those twist offs hold up.......I might want to try them.

Thanks,

Mike Hughes
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Ron Musgraves

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mike,

another great point!!!!!!! i never thought about that, i'm jealous

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rvagnoni

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bgbrew01,

Regarding your advice for appling WD40 to the couplers. Try using a silicone based lube instead of a petroleum based like WD40. The silicone wont eat away at your o-rings like the WD40 will.

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Glenn

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Rick,
He might be a redneck like me and call anything in a spray can WD-40. We can fix anything with just a roll of duct tape, some bale wire, and of course the can of WD-40. I use the silicone based type, but can't remember the name right now. I still call it WD-40 even though it's not, hehehehehe.
Glenn


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Cody

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Originally posted by Ron Marshal:

Well since Cody has come on board he has been very opinionated about everything. This is not a bad thing. I can deal with guys having different ideals. You like the blue ones and I like green ones. I can handle that all day long. <FONT COLOR="e87400">I am only stating things that work for me,, anything that I post here is a matter of fact for me and my company,, these are the things I do, use and the way I conduct business,, my methods are proven for "my" way of business, The things that work for one may not for the other but both can be right. The information I post is my opinion as is everyone else's,, I may do things a little different than some but consider I have been at it for 10+ years now & and of those years for more than 1\2 it has been my sole source of income. Some folks here have been at for 20 years and some for 20 days the purpose of forums like this "are" create an influx "different" ideas and methods for ppl to evaluate & use as they deem.</FONT c>


If I ran my equipment myself I would use a stainless coupler. They are more expensive but they are harder <FONT COLOR="e87400">Actually I think that the SS is softer than steel, you may have found some good mix SS that is harder but all that I have found is softer. Charactastically SS is a softer metal than steel unless it has an added alloy to harden it. To my experience though SS couplers have not done well for "me", I might be wrong though???</FONT c>and do last longer than any other that I know about. I choose to use brass because my employees would loose the stainless before it ever wore out.


Now as Cody said let them freeze up together. This takes me back to my original statement. Why have them in the first place? If you r going to let them corrode together that’s silly. <FONT COLOR="e87400">OK,, The couplers that I do mot maintain aer the ones between my hoses However I can usually get them undone if needed (clamp the male in a vice apply a hammer and a pipe wrench and in a minute or two it's usually off, if need be I can simply unscrew the coupler done)The ones that freeze up entirely are the ones at the gun. These [/i](to my experience)[/i] get torn up from the male nipples getting mushroomed (doesn't take long) If you keep that mushroom filed down the couplers will last considerably longer</FONT c>


Cody what European couplers are OK? I know brands that are good and brand that suck. These European couplers are so different in many ways. They have different standards on there equipment and are usually expensive.
<FONT COLOR="e87400">Sorry but I really do not know the brand of couplers these are.</FONT c>

Cody,
You said you file these plugs down. Why? They are only $1.50 isn’t your time worth anything? <FONT COLOR="e87400">To file down the males it only takes maybe 15 seconds a pop I keep a file on my tool belt to do this so as soon as I notice it starting i hit it. It would take longer and cost more for me to ahve to replace it.</FONT c>
Buy the steel ones they are stronger and will corrode faster, then you will not need to worry about them as you said they will stick together for life. I would not do that but it seems that might be your advice.<FONT COLOR="e87400">?? Not sure what you're gettin at here??</FONT c>


Well I agree that you must lube. I also agree Adams couplers don’t suck.. Hold on though, if we lube them how will they freeze together for life?<FONT COLOR="e87400">I am not as addament about prevention as I should be. (Don't get into a flaming me for this I just do not like to spend my spare time on maintnance that is less costly to "ME" than later replacement.) I only lub the fittings that I remove regularly ie at the maching and at the lance.</FONT c>


If you’re a person confuse about this post I’m sorry. If you’re offended in any way I also apologize. If you read part of this post and take it to serious, just forget about it<FONT COLOR="e87400">No offence here m8</FONT c>




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