Survey on best quick couplers- come on guys give it to me.

[Jon]

Mr. Hydro-Emulsification Surface Preparation specialist,

Your words below is 100% right on. Helping others and learning from others is what this board is all about.

The main thing that your 10 plus years offers is experience. Call it trial and error.

I am only stating things that work for me,, anything that I post here is a matter of fact for me and my company,, these are the things I do, use and the way I conduct business,, my methods are proven for "my" way of business, The things that work for one may not for the other but both can be right. The information I post is my opinion as is everyone else's,, I may do things a little different than some but consider I have been at it for 10+ years now. (cut off rest of your quote).

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[Ron Musgraves]

Cody,


You’re right again, it’s just a matter of my opinion versus yours. Forget that you said you use lubricant on quick couplers and let them corrode so bad they stick together. I just wanted to know witch one it was. You answered that one. We are clear that you only maintain the important couplers.
My opinion is I think if your going to let them corrode why have them there in the first place. Just my opinion.


At the beginning I said every one is entitled to their opinion. Again we agree on this. The only problem I see is that I didn’t agree with your post. I can’t help that I think your post was wrong and not from the other spectrum such as you suggested. [In fact I think it was silly.] Now does this mean that you and I can’t act in a professional manner in a disagreement. That’s up to you and you alone. If someone tells me I’m wrong my first reaction is “bull shit.†then my sense of intelligence kicks in and I say wait let me try and see there point. You still believe your right that’s fine I can deal with that. Just stating my own opinion.


When I told you to get the steel in stead of brass. I was being factious, I know that might not have been professional but some times I ‘m a little sarcastic. Now I know you only meant the ones in the middle sections of hose. Now I understand that you don’t grease those either. On one hand you where telling us to grease and the other you where telling us to freeze. That’s your opinion mine was eliminating those that are not necessary. Just our opinion differences again.


In closing I re-read your quote john posted. I believe you misunderstood my criticism. When someone posts something I don’t agree with I will share my opinion. The board members and guest will read and test our philosophies. Whether I’m wrong or right does not really matter. The truth in anything will usually prevail. I believe that you and I will have many differences and make for some good posting. As for this subject I didn’t want to say anything on it to begin with. So, I’m done and will not have anything new regardless of anyone’s comments. {Or we can repeat everything about two or three more times?} noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo think not.




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[Douglas Hicks]

Cody, instead of using quick connectors, did you ever try pipe unions on the seldom disturbed hose sections. Seems they would be easier to remove with tools. Just make sure to assemble them properly.
Douglas Hicks
General Fire Equipment Co of Eastern Oregon, Inc

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[Ron Musgraves]

Douglas,

Have you ever thought about crimping male & female pipe threads on the ends of hose? Don’t even use a union. I stopped using couplers long ago and unions as well. Just a thought next time your hose breaks have them put male threads on one end. Try it, you might like it.


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[Bryan]

Howdy fellow Pressure washer folks,

Thanks for the suggestion on the quick coupler issue. By the way, Cody, I said Foster quick couplers suck, not the JE Adams. (Scroll up and take a look) As a matter of fact we have changed over to all Adams quick disconnects and they seem to hold up much longer than any other. Well, so you all have a Merry Christmas and a prosperous New Year.
Bryan

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[Larry L.]

Guess It will be me who says they have hadem to last 5years.I use Adams S.S. QC and S.S. plugs of some kind.I use 50ft hoses,male and girl ends with QC inbetween,LUBE whats that.I agree with WIZ on type of o-ring but can't seem to remember cuz its been awhile on lube being on the QC that I order.I think the more you lube the more it shortens the life of them cuz of wittle wittle bety dirt can stay longer to cut your balls out.I use the QC inbeteew the 50ft's to ack like a swivel,which want work for most,but I use a duel lance.When I get ready to whip the hose I can back the psi off enuff with duel lance to get a kink out without turning on the downstreamer.When it comes time to replace hoses I also replace QC but use the ones I took off else where.The plugs are a different story to me cuz they do not last 5years,instead of file I use a pair pilers to clamp around and turn afew times with lite psi...Scott Stone Please don't read rest of post........................If you wantem to last and work you haveta cleanem with a gosh dang brush yel brushy brushy and I think its better not to lube cuz more you lube more you need to brushy brushy.Put it on your maintance list and give it a try,your balls will roll better.I use the soap str. out of my chemical tank to cleanem with,as Scott says you got to brush them to getem really clean.

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[Scott Stone]

Just for the Record Cody, any stainless Steel is an alloy. It is a combination of Nickel and Steel. For the record there are different grades of stainless steel. The really high quality stainless has a higher mix of Nickel than the lower grades of Stainless. The lower grades of Stainless will rust and the higher grades do not. Stainless is by design and plan harder on the rockwell scale than ordinary steel. The more Nickel the harder it gets.

As for maintaining the QC's. I also use pliers to ring the male ends. It is kind of like circumcising them, if you will excuse the expression. You take the little flap of metal on the shoulder from where the balls meet the nipple. (I feel myself starting to blush)

You can do this for a while, but after a while the O-rings start to wear faster, so that you are constantly replacing them. When they get to where they do not last more than an hour or two, it is time to replace the male end of the QC.

I am like Bigboy, I use stainless connectors and nipples. I just like it better, and they last better when we do our fleets as we drag them across the pavement.

As for brushing, it knocks the oxidation off so the dirt doesn't stick.


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[Jim&Shirley]

WOW!!!!!!! WELL WE USE PARKER FITTINGS SEEMS TO WORK FOR US, AS WELL AS A SILICNE SPRAY TO LUBE, JUST A MATTER OF PREFERENCE,AND JUST WHAT WORKS FOR US. jim&shirley

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[Dave Olson]

I have uploaded a picture of a valve & whip assembly that we use. Hope it worked!

We use stainless 1/4" quick coupler sockets on all of our valves. All of the sockets that we use on the end of our wands are brass. All plugs are just steel.

During the course of working our guys will use 1 or more wands, maybe a surface cleaner, and a hose end sprayer to apply detergents. We started using stainless in this position a couple years ago. They out last the brass probably 10 to 1 to one!

I think ours are Adams. Never have paid to much attention to the manufacturer. Our current pricing from the folks in Ft. Worth:
Stainless Female socket 1/4" = $17.00/each
Brass Female socket 1/4" = $3.75/each (1 doz)
Steel Female plug 1/4" = $1.50/each (1 doz)

We use an inline swivel for the hose. We insulate the whip and fittings so the operator does not get burned!

Dave Olson

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[Larry L.]

<FONT face="Comic Sans MS"><FONT COLOR="Fuchsia">Hey Dave wantem putem little red car again me white truck,haha.</FONT c></FONT f>
<FONT COLOR="Blue">Seen the pic sure would hate to have that much wt. under my gun alday.Would it be better to have a streamline ball value instead of the sq. one,they make them in several different psi and I think they even make a stainless steel one.I'm sure you've tried as for the reason the one you use now.Why the 1/4 QC,if its no special need I think the 3/8's are easier to get hold of and disconnect.To me it seemed that the 1/4's would knockup more offen and also cold,wet hands can't feel something that little.ha.</FONT c>
<FONT face="Stencil"><FONT COLOR="Crimson">You can get the str. ones with male or girl ends for less wt.Is the one you use a metal that does not get hot,it looks like it could get hot?.I have not found a inline swivel that would last as long as I thought they should, even the high dollar ones.I have tried several to no vail is why I went with QC's inbetween to ACK like a swevl.I tried and I tried to get the extra wt. off that the QC's add plus they take more space up on your hose reel.There is nothing more troublesum then a leaky swel to me when it comes right down to it then anything in pw-ing.Hey if not the white one how boutem red one.Stupid me got the red out on ice today,slid in ditch,not hurt nothing,stupid me went back to house.</FONT c></FONT f>

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[Dave Olson]

The inline hose swivel that we use is a Mosmatic. They last much longer than anothers that we have tried. Been awhile since I've bought any but I think we paid around $45 each for them.

The ball valves that we use are rated for 7400 psi 200 degrees F. They are stainless and cost less than $25 each. We have tried other more expensive brands and these are by far the best that we have found.

We always wear gloves, never have had a problem getting a hold of the 1/4" Q/D's.

Dave Olson

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[Dave Olson]

OK Bigboy here is a picture of our Little Red Car. You got a picture of your White Truck?

When we get rid of all of this ice n snow, come on up to Illinois and we'll take a spin around

Dave Olson



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[Mike Hughes]

Dave,

I pay no mind to the manufacturer either (obviously, I'm in the minority here)........but, in the future I probably will. I'll probably reference this thread before i buy quick connects again in the spring....

Mike

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[Larry L.]

I hear ya Dave but think the ice and snow may be here tel July.
Took several pictures but 2 year old grandson needed them more then me cuz he hadem in his toy box.Will take more to show ya but waiting for mudflaps to do so.
If we drive though town you better get a tuneup and make sure they're plenty gas station close by cuz I'll needem for the white one,6 to 8 mpg,WOW glad I'm in this buss.

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[Douglas Hicks]

I have been asked to define what a union is, and what it does. The question made me feel good, because it came from someone on the board who has lots of answers for the rest of us. Then I tried to explain what a union is and does. I even tried to find a picture on the net. Now I am again humbled. I can not explain what a union is, except is is used to join two pieces of pipe together in the middle of a run. My advice, go to a hardware store, look at a union. And please don't ask me hard questions again, makes my head hurt.
Douglas Hicks
General Fire Equipment Co of Eastern Oregon, Inc

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[Dave Olson]

Hi Doug,

Connecting 2 pipes together could be done with a coupling inside or outside. A union is much larger than a coupling but can be taken apart (unscrewed).

My $.02

Happy New Year Everyone!

Dave Olson

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[Douglas Hicks]

Quick connctors

Well I've been using the Fluid Controls connectors for some time now. Not a bad product, expensive, but no tools are required to connect and disconnect. O'rings leak, but are not hard to change. The only problem is the company service is really lousy. The first time I ordered O'rings ( a proprietary design) I got the wrong ones, and I had them shipped UPS Air. I called the company and they told me they could not have sent the wrong ones. Yeah, and someday I hope to be perfect too! As I was leaving town for a week on the road, I did not have time to send them a sample, but I did when I got back. Of course the only sample I had was on a new coupler, so i wrote them a letter, taping samples of the correct andf incorrect parts. I week or so later I recievced the right O'rings in the mail, no apology. On July 2, I phoned and ordered more connectors, (they do wear out) and O'rings. The Fluid Control people do not accecpt credit cards, and I don't have an account with them. I asked to be called back with a price so I could send a Check. The next day (july 3) I had not received an answer, so I called them.
Again I was promised an call back, which was not received until July 6. The price included COD charges. Of course I was out of town for the next week, and did not know this. The UPS guy tried to deliver the parts, but I was gone. I called on July 30, talked to Robert Perkey, Industrial Relations manager, who promised to get back to me. Now 5 days have gone by and no phone call. I sure wish I could get some good connectors that would hold up to hot water, did not freeze up, had easily replacable O'rings and were available from someone who understpood custormer service. Apparantly Fluid Controls at PO Box 307 in tulsa is not the one to deal with.

Douglas Hicks
General Fire Equipment Co of Eastern Ore, Inc

PS When I get over being upset w/Fluid Controal, I'll work on the really important stuff.

 

[ASC]

So what's the best coupler to use?

 

[Mark]

I think that depends on who you ask.

 

[ASC]

Ill try the JE Adams

Ill buy them in Stainless steel Where can I get them?[help]