All This Talk About Standards

Craig Knight

New Member
All this talk about standards and pricing and such lately made me do some heavy digging into Quickbooks this weekend. With our season already fired up and running, i decided to make a few changes.

Ran complete printouts for the last three years, and compared pricing in each area, and was amazed at how much my prices fluctuated. Seems early in the season i was charging much less than in prime time, and the same went for the end of the season. So off to Best Buy i went, to get 2001 pro.

After all weekend of putting our heads together, the boss and i decided to take the average of the top 20% in each category (deck clean, deck seal, driveway, ect) and make that the base price. In 2001 pro, you can make up to 20 different price levels for each service. We used 3 (+15%,-10%, and -20%) this is to allow for each situation where base price won't do. Made a vow that base price will be used when in doubt. (fleet washing/commercial prices are set in stone, just talking about residential)

This will make my rates, on average, considerably higher than last 3 years. I have always been a lot better at doing the work than giving the estimates. Always priced according to how i felt the customers were responding to sales pitch. This is what i want to get away from, because at times i felt the customer was going to bail, and dropped the rates, they would jump right on it, and other times just the opposite. My ratio proposal to invoice was 6 to 4 so i know my sales knowledge and presentation are fine, it's the prices/rates area i am lacking in.

So, i put the new rates to work today with 3 proposal (two decks, one house wash). One deck i was very reluctant shooting the new price increases out, it was a full clean and seal. Finally drug myself to the door, handed the customer new packet with all company info, before after pics, ect in it and explained the proposal and techniques we use. As always i tell them that all they have to do is call to schedule and leave the rest to us, and he said go ahead and do it at our convenience, signed the proposal and we said our goodbyes. 2nd deck proposal went the same, except i felt i would get the job from the beginning, and had no reluctancy proposing the new price increases. Got it too.

Now the house was a different story. It is a large home, painted white brick, and very clean. Very, very little mold and mildew and eaves were just painted and had no mold, cobwebs, ect. So there was my delima back, i felt charging the new rates was not morally correct, reduced the rates, issued the proposal, got the job, scheduled the job and left.

Now, my question, on the house, should i have stuck to the price strategy, charged full price, (which i feel strongly i would get the job no matter what the price) or should i have broke the pricing down like i did.

Residential customers around here will call and ask, what do you charge to do a 1 or 2 story home. We all know the variables we have to look at before answering such a question, but i base my charges by the home, not by the hour. That is what they expect. They do not want to hear how long it will take, or we charge by the hour, they want to hear how much it will cost to clean their home. Thats how i price it. Also for yall "lowballer" fanatics, i am told many, many times throughout the year, i am conciderably higher than my competition, that is why i am reluctant to go with a set pricing strategy, that is even higher.



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Craig Knight
www.powerwashunlimited.com
 

Bridget

New Member
We did the same thing last summer. We compiled all of our prices on our existing customers and then graphed them out. We saw a pretty wide range. We determined what was a good fair price for each service and as you, made that the base price.

We then created a pricing sheet so when customers called or when we were bidding it wasn't a guessing game anymore.

We also discovered that by having this information compiled and all in one place we saw right away the need for us to increase our prices on customers that we have been charging the same price as far back as 1989. (yeeks)

I am pleased to report that not one of our customers left us as a result. I attribute that to the wonderful washers we work with. CHEERS CHEERS to theses fine fella's.

Here is something else that has helped...
We started placing prices on additional services right on the proposal form so that in the event that circumstances surrounding the wash change you have already quoted a price for that service. For example: staging, closing cargo doors, driver doors, windows, squeeging floors, minimum stop charges, lock outs, bringing water on-site etc... The customer knows upfront what he/she will be charged if we have to provide these additional services. There no awkwardness in going back to ask for more money on something that ws unforeseen at the time of proposal.

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Bridget
United Mobile Power Wash
Our Power Is In Our Performance
 

Cody

New Member
<FONT COLOR="e87400">Hey Craig,,,

Well,,, I don't think there is a right answer to your question, it all boils down to the individual operator.

For myself, years ago I figured out this super incredible completely unbenounced to the world techinque for deciding how to charge for my services

I could charge $150 for a job and make $600 after doing 4 of them,, or I could charge $200 and do 3 to make a better $600

Mind boggling isn't it?

I could do 3 instead of 4 and get the same revenues with less overhead. So I said screw it and boosted all my prices. Nowadays i do get a few more no's but who cares I make it up on the yes'es.

So I think you should have gone with the higher price, hell for that matter I think you need to raise it and the others aswell, not because I do but because you have an incredible closing ratio. Your closing ratio tells me that you may be charging to little, 4 our of 6 is 66.6% that is nose bleeder high, teh national average for experience sales professionals is only 50% while a standard ratio is 33.33%. So raise your prices till you hit maybe a 40% closing ratio and you'll be pitching more - selling less - making more money on fewer jobs & having more time to spend enjoying yourself or building your business,,,, or whatever floats your boat!

Hope this helps a little
Cody</FONT c>

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[This message has been edited by Cody (edited February 05, 2001).]
 

Ronniels

New Member
Cody is right...
I was happy with what I was making per job for a long time. But after discovering the boards (This one and Delco's) I started to realize that my closing rate was unusually high. (85-95%)
So I checked out prices and realize that I have been working for pennies.
On my Decks & Fences I have been charging less than half of what my competitor's charge here.
And I was close to average on houses but only 30-40% on flatwork compared to others.
After I raised my prices my closing rate only dropped slightly since I have so many good references now...that I did for nothing...
But, my profit margin is way up and I have a bit more free time.....and can afford to let my employees do more and me less now
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Ronniels
AHR Tidewater, Inc.
Va Beach, VA 23456
(757) 368-5495
 

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