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hm29926

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My husband and I are trying to get a loan to start a power washing business. If we can get 5 relatively large contracts they will give us the loan. I have no idea how to go about getting contracts..(parking garages, etc.).. We don't even have any equipment at this point and can't get anything without this loan..

Don't have any idea how to go about doing this. Any information would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Heather Marchand
 
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OrangeCrest

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Do you have a credit line on your credit cards? If you really believe in your venture, pretty much the only way you are going to get the loan, without experience, contracts, a lot of collateral, or a killer business plan that will knock them off their feet; it will be very difficult, if not impossible to get a business loan.

You'll have to take the risk and take the plunge by risking your assets and available resources that you can drum up.

Most banks won't even take you serious until you have been in business for two years.

I opened a bank account with B of A and attempted to take out a business loan, using my house as collateral: they turned me down.

I ran it pass my credit union, without my house as collateral, and they gave me the loan.

Needless to say, B of A was dumped and now the credit union has all my business.

They don’t want to take a risk with me, so why should I reward them by doing business with them?

Good Luck, I hope you are able to find some resourses that makes it possiblwe for you to obtain what you need.
 
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hm29926

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We don't have anything we can use for collateral.
The loan officer at our bank told us that if we could get a certain number of credible contracts, and of course a business plan and all the other paperwork involved, they would give us the loan.

I don't know how to go about getting contracts....This is all very new to us.

Are situation is a little unique. My husbands uncle built a pressure washer that he is in the process of patenting (I probably spelled that wrong :) It has the ability to cover large areas in significantly less time. He has offered to build us one...to the tune of about $20,000.. of course that includes the trailer to haul it, the water tank, hoses, basically everything needed..except the truck to pull it!

Hard to get a loan for something that is not even out on the market. Again, the bank has promised the loan with a number of contracts...we are talking parking garages, etc.
 
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OrangeCrest

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You might want to go to your local SBA office. Not a lender, but the SBA office itself.

Try out this link. It gives a wealth of information on all kinds of topics regarding starting a small business, forms, questions and answers, etc...

Hope this helps. You are taking a big step, but I quit a $20 per hr job with benefits and security, and I don't regret it one bit.

Good Luck...

http://www.allbusiness.com/
 
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hm29926

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Thanks for the information. It is much appreciated!

Heather
 
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hm29926

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Sorry I haven't been online in a couple of days..
No, his uncle is in Louisiana.
 

Don.EMS

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I find it hard to belive that you can even be thinking about starting a business with out a business plan, working capital,
knowlage of this type busines, or any type of knowlage in starting and running your own business. Even if you could get a loan do you even know how much you'll need? Do you know about LLCs, S Corps etc, Insurance, book keeping, adverstising,
Learn the basics then go from there
 

A1PW.LLC

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I'm in Louisiana. Are you talking about that concrete cleaner grasshopper contraption I've seen? I bet I can clean concrete just as fast. It's just two spinner pros hooked together. And you still have to put more gas in the grasshopper. Kinda seems like a waste.
 
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hm29926

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It is built onto a lawn mower...although I don't know what kind..my husband is familiar with those details..

Thanks for your honest response. I have been lead to believe that this "contraption" was state of the art :)))
 
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hm29926

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In response to Don
There is a lot that I don't know...I am researching and trying to learn as much as possible. I have family members who do have their own businesses and who can help provide infomation on many of the things you spoke of. (However, none of them are in the pressure washing business) Well, except my husbands uncle...and he is not new to business, but he is new to the pressure washing business.
Stupid-no. Ignorant-yes. I am aware that getting a "contract" is not the only issue here..but it seems to be the bottom line.

Thanks for your advice. I think maybe we are getting a bit ahead of ourselves. :)
 

Don.EMS

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I'm all for jumping in head first, I've done it with 2 other business and have had success with them both. ( PWing being the latest )
I bye no means think your stupid or ignorant but I think you nailed it by thinking your getting ahead of yourselfs. $20,000
is a lot to spend, try something smaller and grow for there. Theres alot of very good setups for around $7,000 that will get you going in a good way. Good luck
 
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OrangeCrest

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If you have the vehicle to pull it with, you can get everything rolling for $7,000 easily.

I wouldn't try getting contracts until I had the equipment. Let's say you get the contract and they want you to start the following day, or even next week.

Then the bank still turns you down. That can cause some serious problems...

$1,200 for a trailer, $4,000 for a decent P/W (Delco), $500 for a Water Tank (325-Gal with straps), extra hose, business cards, then the insurance, business license and business name.

I'm sure I for got a few things in between, but as long as you don't try to go top of the line and get things you really don't need, you should be able to pull it off for $7,000.
 

Roman

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hm,

I have to agree with your bank. The reason they will not give you a loan (sounds to me) is because they know facts that businesses without a written plan are more likely to fail. If you were a bank and loaning money, wouldn't you require the same? I know I would, because the loan is nothing to them unless it gets paid off and they know that written and well-prepared business plans make it over businesses without. Odds are 100-1 or maybe more (I haven't reached it). Those are nice odds to add to their portfolio. So nice they should be POLICY!

When the bank takes a look at your business plan, they aren't looking for some super business that's going to make millions. What they look for is a plan that is well written and researched. A plan with many goals, one tied to another like a family tree, and a mission statement for the company in which you are forming or about to start. Good, effective business plans don't just get thrown together in a day or even a week. Good business plans take a lot of time and research. If you just throw it together, I, the bank may wonder if this is the kind of work you'll do in your business.

One walking into a bank to secure a loan or even just one going into business for himself or herself has to consider one very important factor. Ultimately, THE most important factor... a PLAN. Without a plan, how is the business going to get from point A to point B if there is no map? How could you find your way on a road trip if you didn't have a plan or a map? You couldn't. I know exactly what you'd be doing... taking whatever road leads you, and eventually making wrong turns and possibly getting lost. How could they build your house without first drawing up a plan? They couldn't. A well-defined plan must be written and approved before the first shovel goes in the ground.

I hope you see why the plan is so important to the bank and also how important the plan is in your future success. If you don't write this plan, you're just taking the road that will lead you.

My point is, do what the bank has asked. If you want to pressure wash, write it down. If you want to be making $xxxx within the first 6 months, then write it down. If you want to own a fleet of 1000 trucks, write it down. If you want to retire at 50, then write it down. You just wrote the down the map, but this is a general map. Now you want to break it down even further until know exactly what you are going to do with the money tomorrow, and you also know exactly what you'll be doing next week. Stick to that, and you can do whatever you want to do whatever field you choose................... but first and foremost my friend is the commitment to writing a business plan and life plan. Don't be surprised if it takes you a year to write it.

Good luck
 
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Bully Wash

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Where to begin with this whole picture, ok take the uncle, what pressure washing experience does he have? To build a contraption and say for $20,000 it will do it is is plain insane and more so if he has NO experience in this field.

Talking about trailers, you can buy almost any trailer from $1000 up however your asking for trouble if you do not know what to look for in a trailer.

First you need to know total weight of all equipment your going to carry on the trailer including water, the GVW must be greater then total weight and you need to include trailer weight too.

Now as for getting contracts before a loan, you have found out you won't get the loan nor the contracts. Why would anyone sign up with a person who is not yet in business?

Like Robert said what if they say OK start tomorrow, you dead, you will never land an account that way.

Spend a few month researching all the pressure washing boards, go to every dealer you can and look over equipment and prices.

Now best advice I can give you is buy second hand, so many get into this business without knowing anything thinking it is a money tree and in a year or less they are selling their equipment for less then half of what they paid for it new.

I have seen guys that paid $15,000 plus sell all for $6,000.

That is what you need to do, and be sure you buy a hot water unit.

And forget your uncle, he is asking a relative for top dollar for something unproven, no way.
 

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