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Larry L.

PWN TEAM - Moderator Emeritus
Bull ,you knew what you were doing John and set back and hallower I don't know why.

You were trying to discredit QrangeCrest like you have others on this board.It may work running around with a local star pinned to your shirt but it doesn't work on the web as easy.

I'll have to agree with Dan S,I had rather not see your face on this board again.Making something up and saying a member on this board stated it is carrying things to for to make yourself look good.

My apology to the board and its members and especially QrangeCrest.
 

Clean County

New Member
Larry,
I never ever try to discredit anyone. IT was an Honest mistake and I can't remember if I ever misquoted anyone on any of the BB's I go to especially here.

You and I have been here from the begining(PWN) and it was guys like us(By putting in the time to post alot here) that help make these bb's what they are as do a ton of other members.

For some reason(Personality conflict if I had to guess) there's a certain individual here that slams me at every oppurtunity and I'm sure is happy they I made that terrible mistake of Misquoting a member here.

If you( I do respect your opinion and position as a Moderator here) and a few others(Except for that one individual) want me gone here then what can I say except I'll have to move on. No problem and of course no hard feelings towards you because you never gave me a reason to have any.
 

Clean County

New Member
Larry,
One last favor since you are a Moderator, could you email Mark from Easy Clean, Dan Flynn, Cody, Tony from A-plus to also see if they want me out. There Opinions I also respect a ton here. If 2 of those guys say for me to walk I'll take your vote as the swing vote 3-2 and move on.

Thanks
 

Larry L.

PWN TEAM - Moderator Emeritus
John,you would be the last person I would do a favor for,I wish I could tell you what I think on this board.To do repect to my peers I will hold my tongue,this certain individual in my book has always been a friend.I have always stood beside him and will put my back to this certain individual before I would yours.I see alot of worm holes though out your post,It doesn't matter to me whether Mark from easy clean,Dan Flynn,Cody,Tony from A-plus wants you to stay on this board.I will always look up on you as a dishonest person,NOone makes a honest mistake....stupid yes but not honest.

Even in your post your wanting a show down,it doesn't matter about what and who help buildit this board to me.When doing good deeds I do not go around patting myself on the back and believe me I do more than I should.I do not want credit from you unless its paying on a bill I own you,your word means nothing to me,honest it doesn't.
 

onecallpowerw

New Member
To all,

I did not mean to start a thread that would cause this much stir.

But, I must say this. John, I have been in the business for going on 8 years now, I have watched this board as well as Grime...... Recently, I just started to post my objectives, views and questions on both. I can say this, that your post show you to be an arrogant individual that seems to thrive off of conflict.

I have brought this up to a few on both boards privately and those that I have brought it up to have said to me that you are really an upstanding guy and that you do not intend to piss of anyone and that this is just John.

I try not to pass judgement on no one and hold no loyaties to anyone but my wife, kids,family and friends. This is just some advise that can be offered to you. You need to take a look at yourself and maybe find ways about yourself that need change. I dont believe after communicating with others that you do what you do intentionally, but you need to change something. Just some advise. No hard feelings here.
 

Dan S

New Member
That certain person . Mmmm who could that be?

John I remember and Im sure you do too . The PWNA thread everything was going great . Then you blew your wad . and then i followed suit . Then Mark bumped me from the mod position ....

Now im not going to say that you made me say it . That would be stupid. It was a choice I made . AND I AM NOT SORRY FOR IT !
not one bit, Sure it was a slap to loose it but ,life goes on,I still support the PWN.

Im done with this it makes \no since to really speak my mind !

**** Thanks Larry , You are a true friend ...... I will put salt on that last step for ya' . but please feed the dog on your way out !!
 

Dan S

New Member
Originally posted by Clean County
Larry,
I never ever try to discredit anyone. IT was an Honest mistake and I can't remember if I ever misquoted anyone on any of the BB's I go to especially here.

You and I have been here from the begining(PWN) and it was guys like us(By putting in the time to post alot here) that help make these bb's what they are as do a ton of other members. John if you look at the calender you would find that you were not here from the begining .. You register in March 2000 Larry in October 2000 and ....what's this I was in Feb.2000 ** just for the record.

For some reason(Personality conflict if I had to guess) there's a certain individual here that slams me at every oppurtunity and I'm sure is happy they I made that terrible mistake of Misquoting a member here.Once again John you are wrong I do not "slam" you everytime!!

If you( I do respect your opinion and position as a Moderator here) and a few others(Except for that one individual) want me gone here then what can I say except I'll have to move on. No problem and of course no hard feelings towards you because you never gave me a reason to have any.
Isnt that a funny statement .. Oh and by the way . How in the heck can you post and contribute to 4-5 BB's... Just wondering .....No thats not a slam!! Have a good day John! Dont go away mad ........ just Go away !!
 

squirtgun

New Member
is it worth

Guys,
I have have hesitated to say much about this topic.I see where some would have problems with the stamp.I can accept their reasons,as I'm sure they feel justified for one reason or another for having them.
This topic has taken a very bad turn for the worse,the tone(as I read it)has become hostile,over what was an admitted mistake.It may not have been,but I will give anyone the benefit of doubt in such situations.
This topic has strayed from the original post and turned into a BBS nightmare.Is it worth telling other to "go away",assuming that you know what another was thinking when they contributed their opinion, or fighting over who was posting on the PWN back in the early days?
Again it shows that people have not learned that it is okay to,agree to disagree.
What good does this kind of nit- picking,and name calling do for this BB?It only diminishes the quality of fellowship among others within our indusrty.Isn't it time everyone checked their EGO at the keyboard?Think before you type,remember that not all that read replies are members and know some of the history of this BBS.If you were new here would you join after reading some of the things that have been typed in this thread?
I like coming to this BB,I feel like all have honest intentions,and I have always felt as though the advice shared here is top notch,and hope that it continues.
 

Dan S

New Member
Squirt , It's a lil deeper then that ....This just didnt happen!!
It has been a build up for a long time . YES he needs to go away . all he is a trouble maker.
And I really dont feel the need to explain anything to you .

YO cant just read what happen in this thread to assume Who is right and wrong. The only nightmare we have on this BB is John himself.

So please dont just read this thread and assume anything . go back a couple years and then tell me your assumption.It has nothing to do with "ego" ........It 's I have had enough!! and he needs to dissapear............. We are not fighting over who had the first post . that was merly a statement!!
Who is doing the name calling?
And for the record there are new members everyday .

take care!!
 

squirtgun

New Member
not as dumb

Dan S,
I'm not as dumb as you think,I have read a lot of posts from several years back.I understand that there is some history behind all of this.I made no assumptions from just one post.
Name calling was merely a figure of speech.Everyone has an Ego,and sometimes we all let it get the best of us,me included.My point was that when topics like this take a turn for the worse,as this one has,it opens the door for arguements.When threads come to that point it should be up to the Admins. and Mods. to get them back on track.
I know that every BBS has things like this happen,I fully realize that some people will never agree or get a long with one another.I also knew when I posted my opinion on how things have went down hill with this thread,that someone would fire back at me.What I typed here was not directed at one person,it was a general observation.
I know that new members join daily,again,not as dumb as you think I am.
I like coming to this BBS.When I contribute, or post I do my best to think as I type,since I'm aware that things often read different than intended.
I will leave if the Admins. or Mods. feel that I have no reason to post here.I know I'm a new guy so some may not thing I have a right to.
 

Larry L.

PWN TEAM - Moderator Emeritus
Squritgun you have all the right in the world to post your replies as long as you go by the rules of this board.You have done nothing wrong in stating what you think,I see you do have a understanding heart.

I was going to delete Johns post as to what he said OrangeCrest said.I seen it was a fire starter but if you'll notice the thread was ask not to be deleted.

I did do what you said you would do,it wasn't the first and hopefully it'll be the last.
 

Clean County

New Member
I made a mistake about OrangeCrest and said so. The Problem is that a certain individual(s) were just waiting for me to make a mistake and as soon as they found it they jumped all over it. It does not matter that I admitted the mistake and apoligized to the offending party.

The point is that I admitted to my mistake. Anyone who knows me knows I like to help people whenever I can. I also get the favor recipricated when needed which is the beauty of these bb's. Anyone who reads my old posts here will know that I Always gave the best answers that I could and I'm sure some of them weren't the greatest of answers because I was learning alot as I was going along as we all were.

I won't try to prove my case and get roped into attacks here. This bb deserves better then that.

If you see my name down below on this bb it is because I am reading the post here that I feel I can learn something from but I won't any longer add imput to any post here. I feel this bb deserves better then seeing me get slammed by the same person over and over.

I'm sorry to the ones that might have got something out of my post here but you guy/gals Know where to catch me.

I will add one more thing. This bb POWERWASHNETWORK(PWN) has helped me tremendously with my business and I'm glad I donated money here in the begining as per respected request by the owner DAN FLYNN. To all---Enjoy this bb and try to give back at least what you get from it by posting to others threads.

Bye---------------
 

onecallpowerw

New Member
John,

Here we go again. The post was going well until:

"you guy/gals Know where to catch me"

and

"I'm glad I donated money here in the begining as per respected request by the owner DAN FLYNN"

#1 - I do not think anyone wants to catch you. This is directed towards two individuals and you know it.

#2 - NO one needed to know that Dan came to you in the beginning for monies to help with the board. This is directed to Dan for not apparently backing you in this so called fight. Let me know how much he apparently asked for and I will send it to you personally.

I agree with squirtgun, this thread has gone way too far. I understand the fight on both sides from just reading post. We all need to forget the past and move on. Dan S & Larry, you both seem like the kind of folks that I would easily sit down with and drink a few, #1, Dan is from my birthplace and Larry shoots straight from the hip which you dont find allot of anymore.

Lets all just let it go.
 

Larry L.

PWN TEAM - Moderator Emeritus
John you need to reread Onecalls post,now your adding individual(s) as to your first individual post.It looks like now you have no repect for me as you said you did in the above post.and seeing your name at the bottom and not helping is being selfesh to not only to yourself but for the ones wanting help.My best advice if you do not want attacked do not attack others.If we didn't take up for our members when being attacked we couldn't be much of a board to help them to understand the different type people they have to deal with,it could be the reason your still part time.Plus the advice you gave "To all---Enjoy this bb and try to give back at least what you get from it by posting to others threads" is great advice,its to bad you cann't see it that way by saying your just reading to learn and not posting to help others.People in the north,south,east and west talk different, explain things different,it takes a good salesperson to sale to all.

Your looking for new memebers for the pwna now,so don't be hardheaded and blind b/c someone told you something you didn't realize or not paying attention.

All I ask is not to attack a member on this board or try to prove something by it being a honest mistake.Make sure your right and you want get hammered like in the above post.

No hard feelings John on my part,sometimes a wake up call doesn't hurt no one,thats is if your wanting to learn more about ones self to better itself....Good luck on your new job.
 

Mark

Moderator / Sponsor
John,

I have remained silent on this one, however it is time to give it up and admit when you are wrong.
 

Clean County

New Member
Mark,
I was going to e-mail you but I think you wan't me to answer here so I will.

I already above admitted I was wrong as I stated above and I apoligized for it. If your saying I did it on purpose then I'll answer you short and to the point...No I did not! I don't know what else I can say. Thats it. I'm not defending myself except to say that you wanted the truth and I just gave it to you. Hopefully only you respond here so this post can end or just let it end anyway.

IF you want me to e-mail to explain anything let me know. If not no problem.

Best of luck
 
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OrangeCrest

Guest
I think it is time to just stop talking about it. It is understood how everyone feels, now just let it go...

Go to another topic, there are a lot more interesting topics than to carry this one on and on...

I think everyone will that this topic is only getting irritating now...
 

Gwas

New Member
I still think you guys should fist fight !!!!!


Gwas as to not deleting this post like I did the other one you posted I will warn you first,I haven't the time to delete some of your post.I've deleted a few of your post or I should say several,Like you said I have to go to work.Would you like to be banned from the board???????

By not taking the warning(s) as seeing your post(s)ed deleted,I thought I'd warn you openly!!!!!!!!
 
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Dan S

New Member
John and everybody else>>

It's not just about the mistake with Orange >> Robert<<

It's much deeper then that .......... Much DEEPER!

he also knows that he does not get slammed everytime that he post here. As a matter of fact on the pwna thread we were talking lkie buds untill he decided to act like God. He knew what he was doing and he was very successful at it < Just like this time.

It's not pwn against John it's John against himself.

Whats sad is that he will take his problem on here and try to get other folks on different BB's to take his side and some of them dont come here so right away they think he is right and assume that he is right........ well John Im sorry but you are not right. And once again it's not all about the "mistake"

and for the record>> The donation of money in the begining of the pwn was an option No body twisted his arm and he was not the only one who donated. maybe he thinks that $50.00 that he donated makes him part owner or something. Because he is the only one outa several that brings it up .

I feel sorry for you John, really I do !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Staff

Administration Team
Looks like it is time to end this thread.

Obviously it is winter, too many members with cabin fever.

Lets move on to something positive. :)
 
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