Chem. Question ...What is............>>

[Dan S]

Sodium Hydroxide ...Alkaline product ... and sodium Metasilicate?

It's in a powder form

HPH powder Super sat ......???

A trk. company gave it to me b/c the box was open .. I have their website and Im fixin' to check it out after this post. but I thought I would play with your minds and see if anybody knows anything about this product first...........

 

[Larry L.]

stay away from it,don't get none on your hands it will eatem off,if you smell of it and get any fumes up you nose it will fall off.throw it away as soon as you can it will cause your hair to fall out.don't spill none on your truck unless you ready for a new paint job,thats some bad stuff man,throw it away

 

[Dan S]

gezzzzzzzz.. sounds harmfull.. I called the manufactures and waiting for them to call back .... apparently you mix this with another product ......... They say it is a great cleaning solution .. You also put it into a vac. some how .. Dont know too much about it yet . but I will heed your advice. I will also hang on to it untill after they call me back .. What could I use it for >>?

 

[Dan S]

SuperSat® - Process Tour

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The 55-gallon SuperSat® tank can be charged with up to 200 lbs. of powder at a time.
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The SuperSat® tank

The patented SuperSat® tank provides a continuous supply of alkaline builder solution, using the cheapest thing on your property -- your water.

The solution is the builder source for all your detergent needs: Tire Cleaner, Presoak, High Pressure Wash, Foaming Detergents, and more.

As the solution is used, the water supply is replenished automatically and new powder is brought into solution automatically.

Absolutely no measuring is required -- extra powder in the tank creates a long-lasting reserve that is used as needed by the system.

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Surfactant concentrates are specially formulated for each application.
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SuperSat® Surfactants

Our surfactant concentrates are specially formulated for each application: Tire Cleaner, Presoak, High Pressure Wash, Foaming Detergents. Because each specific cleaning challenge is different.

Our Tire Cleaner has powerful solvents to attack brake dust. Our Presoak is formulated to break the bonds between road film and the vehicle surface. And our Foaming Detergents provide the "suds and show" your customers love to see.

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The dual eductor valve combines the alkaline builder solution with the surfactant in the proper ratio.
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Custom Detergents

Here's where it all comes together: either in your soap tank, or directly injected into the washing process.

The dual eductor valve combines the alkaline builder solution with the surfactant in the proper ratio and dilutions to make a great detergent.

The dual valve contains removable orifice tips so you can customize either the alkali or the surfactant levels to suit your needs. Or adjust them both -- you're in control



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[Dan S]

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At equal activity levels, SuperSat typically offers 50% savings over conventional detergents.
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Unparalleled cost effectiveness:
Combining superior cleaning and low use costs, SuperSat offers unparalleled cost effectiveness.
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SuperSat really stands out in touchless cleaning applications where the chemical must do most of the work in removing soils.
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Beats powders and liquids:
SuperSat is far more convenient and efficient than powders and liquids. Click to see more.
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Saves space:
SuperSat requires far less space to store, handle, and ship compared to most detergents because it lacks fillers - for example, SuperSat requires 20% of the space of normal liquids.
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Adjustability in cleaning and foam:
SuperSat is the only detergent where foaming levels and cleaning levels can be adjusted independent of one another.
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Safe cleaning:
SuperSat is not acid based or high pH dependent. SuperSat uses a highly effective chemistry that is relatively mild in comparison to other detergents. The cost effectiveness of SuperSat allows for a high quantity of this cleaner to be applied for best in class results.
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Simple:
The SuperSat System is very simple to use ... just put the powder in the tank and hook up our surfactant and stand back while the process makes detergent using your water!
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Identifies the different wash stages:
In self-serve applications, SuperSat's strong visual presence makes it clear to customers when a switch from one product to another has been made … bright yellow tire cleaner, rich foaming red presoak, high foaming high pressure soap, and high sudsing pink bubble brush that keeps them washing.
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SuperSat offers a fragrance option. Unlike other fragrance soaps SuperSat has lots of power. Why? Because SuperSat separates into two components and avoids compatibility problems between detergent and fragrances - this allows us to keep the fragrance cleaners strong unlike other fragrance soaps.
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[Dan S]

CARWASH SOAP ...... I reakon !!!!

1111 HPH Powder • • • HPH Powder is the highest strength SuperSat® powder specifically designed for touchless cleaning applications such as automatics. HPH gives extra punch to make up for the short wash cycle and can also be used on self serve car washes.

 

[onecallpowerw]

Larr, Dan S and Dan F,

send me your email, I have somethin for ya.

onecallpowerwash@comcast.net


dat me=Triplel@bscn.com

 

[Dan S]

~~~***~~~ This is not a ad ~~~***~~~

Im just looking for answers on this product .......

 

[Larry L.]

you'd better throw it away,I wouldn't trust that truckdriver man.

like it said 'standback' and watch ya hair fall out.

You may want to try adding a cup full of each to your chemical tank,its a mixer and heck of a cleaner,send it to me and I'll throw it away for ya.

 

[onecallpowerw]

larr, that email did not work. Must be that arkansas type of email.


fooled ya huh,try this on

Triplel@bscn.com

 

[Dan S]

Larry what would that do to my chem by adding a cup?

Add some zip? what would be the effect?

and what the heck is it?

What is metasilicate?

And what is the proper diffenation of " Sodium Hydroxide"?

 

[Larry L.]

Man don't blow yourself up with that stuff,send it to me and I'll discard of it.They are cleaners,clean ya hair right off ya head,ya didn't smell of it did ya,if ya did you'd better make a doc appointment before ya nose falls off.

 

[Larry L.]

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[Paul B.]

The proper diffecation of "Sodium Hydroxide" per The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. 2001.

Sodium Hydroxide

Chemical compound, NaOH, a white crystalline substance that readily absorbs carbon dioxide and moisture from the air. It is very soluble in water, alcohol, and glycerin. It is a caustic and a strong base. Commonly known as caustic soda, LYE, or sodium hydrate, it is available commercially in various solid forms, e.g., pellets, sticks, or chips, and in water solutions of various concentrations; both solid and liquid forms vary in purity. The major use of sodium hydroxide is as a chemical and in the manufacture of other chemicals; because it is inexpensive, it is widely used wherever a strong base is needed. It is also used in producing rayon and other textiles, in making paper, in etching aluminum, in making soaps and detergents, and in a wide variety of other uses. The principal method for its manufacture is electrolytic dissociation of sodium chloride; chlorine gas is a coproduct. Small amounts of sodium hydroxide are produced by the soda-lime process in which a concentrated solution of sodium carbonate (soda) is reacted with calcium hydroxide (slaked lime); calcium carbonate precipitates, leaving a sodium hydroxide solution.


What is metasilicate?
Definition: \Met`a*sil"i*cate\, n. (Chem.)
A salt of metasilicic acid.

Sodium Metasilicate
Sodium metasilicate is not a cleaning agent by itself. It's a strong base (reacts violently with acids). The pH of a 1% aqueous solution is about 13. A major use is as a builder (a material that enhances or maintains the cleaning efficiency of a surfactant, principally by inactivating water hardness) in soaps and detergents.
It may be used as part of a component in a chemical degreaser, where it would react with fatty acids(animal grease) to form a soap, which is then rinsed away.


Sodium silicate, on the other hand, is an abrasive white powder frequently used in things like toothpaste.


Lithium Metasilicate...

 

[Larry L.]

Thanks Pual but now he want send it to me,he'll think now he has a gold mine .

Dan more than likely its part of a 3 part chemical mix kit or could be even a 2 part mix kit,maybe.Most mix kits makes a 55 gal drum which can be broken down into your chemical tank at 1:2 to 1:100 or more,depends.

 

[Mark]

Seems you answered Dans questions pretty well!
Thanks Paul

 

[chirobob]

Dan,
you could cut/dilute it down to 2% sodium hydroxide add 10 % soap and the rest water and use it for degreasing concrete, etc. Most commercial and domestic degreasers have 2% sodium hydroxide in them. Just treat it with the same respect you would HF, although I don't feel it is as dangerous as HF. In my days of having a butcher shop, we used to use the sodium hydroxide crystals in cold water to clean our electric tenderizer parts over night, 'Hey presto' in the morning it all just rinsed off. I guess the golden rule is not to mix it with hot water as it becomes very reactive and could cause a caustic burn.

With prolonged contact or high concentration it will dissolve the fatty acids and oils in your skin. even at 2% it will give you a tingle. You can neuralise any burns with a weak acid such as vinegar/acetic acid.

Over here you can find it as the active ingredient at high concentrations draino, concrete kleen, paint stripper.

If you wanted to you could just sweep it onto oil stains neat let it sit for overnight and rinse it off with cold water at low pressure then hot.

At what concentration does it say on the box or MSDS?

Hope this helps or you could give it to Larry.

Regards from the heatwave,
Jason

 

[Dan S]

thanks paul.

ya' want me to send ya' a cup Larry?

Maybe the Fed's will be here any day to take it away from me....

I better use it up!!

Maybe I should try to mix a lil. in a 5 gal. can w/my soap ?

WHo knows ?

 

[Larry L.]

heck no I don't want a cup,I wanted it all.

Alot of our soaps on the market has those chemicals in them,by adding it raw to a 5 gal bucket you may over do,maybe two finger fulls and a sniff would do.

I was going to stop making chemicals this year b/c of the danger in the raw HF.I bought my first drum of HF last week from a local wholesaler.WOW and wow, now I know what some of you have been saying about turning things white with HF.I didn't realize some of the formulars to make HF brighteners was that bad on turning aluminum white.The one I make leaves aluminum shinny looking and if I cann't find one that leaves it that way I'll start making my own again.

The same goes for the two chemicals you have Dan,alot of different formulars can be made from it.

 

[Dan S]

Humor me Larry

Explain my options!

Thanks I know Im being quite the pest . but hey man thats what Friends are for.............