chemicals

ghouchu

New Member
i've been calling around town looking for some of the chemicals mentioned in this forum for cleaning decks and houses. the chemicals are: sodium hydroxide, tsp, sodium metasilicate, and oxalic or citric acid. i've run into 2 problems.

first, most everything beyond liquid chlorine seems to be available only in powdered(or flake or bead) form in 50 lb bags. will they mix up well enough to apply with a chemical injector? what strength do i want to mix up--how much chemical to how much water? are there commercial preparations that contain these chemicals that i could use instead of trying to mix the powders. one chemical supplier recommended "big ripper" and "legend degreaser" as containing between the two of them all the chemicals i mentioned except for the acid. any opinions on those? they are in the $5 to $6/gal range. i don't know what stength the various chemicals are in those products. i'm figuring to use the 12% liquid chlorine as my base and add the other chemicals to that in whatever proportion seems consistent with past cleaning recipes already posted in this forum. any specific recommendations for proportions are welcomed and encouraged.

the same place said i could use muriatic acid(which they carry in a liquid) as a neutralizer instead of oxalic(also said that citric was too dangerous to be messing with for these purposes). will the muriatic do the trick?

second, i'm a one-man operation and really don't need 50 lb bags of anything. again, i guess the best way to solve that problem is a premixed product, but i'm open to any suggestions.

i've read the various posts on using bleach vs sodium hydroxide vs oxalic acid(as a cleaner, i think) on wood, but am not sure of the bases for the competing opinions. also, the chemicals i listed above are extracted from several different recipes, so some may be redundant to others, or be incompatible to others. any guidance in that regard will be much appreciated.

thanks folks.

richard
 

Jon Fife

New Member
whats up Richard,

I'll try and answer as many of your questions as possible. I have never had any problem mixing any chemicals. they have all seemed to dissolve well for me, using cold water. As far as strength goes, I use 1.5-2 lbs of oxalic or citric acid to a 5 gal. container of h2o. DO NOT use muriatic acid for anything unless you are properly equipped. THis stuff is very harmful. I honestly dont think your chemical guy knows what he is talking about. Oxalic acid can be harmful if not respected, but citric acid is harmless. Jim Bilyeu said that citric acid is what McDonalds uses to turn their french fries to a bright color, and Jim really knows his stuff.

Go read the post 'wolmans warning' and read what greg@gcr put as his wood cleaning solution. I bought the stuff the next day, and it works well. As far as buying 50lb bags goes, they won't last that long. Definitely the cheap way to go. Since you are just starting out, it may be wise for you to buy store-bought chems until you get your feet a little wetter. I hope this response has cleared up some things for you--

Take care,

Jon Fife
Nashville,TN
 

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