5 Star Johnny
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I'm looking at roughly 75,000 sq. ft. of interior washing (ceiling, walls, floor) for paint prep., and could use some input. This was previously a manufacturing facility, which is now completely empty. The main area (60,000 sq. ft.) is completely open other than the vertical supports, and is 32' tall at the 200' sides and 36' at the center. The ceiling is covered with reflective foil backed insulation, corrugated steel walls, with brick fire wall on two sides. On all surfaces there is a thin film of carbon and oils (from welding I assume) with not much other accumulated dirt like I've seen in other jobs. The room is being stripped of all unnecessary fixtures, but will have all the lights (plugs on all), outlets scattered around, and three large, high voltage panel areas. There will be live voltage throughout, but we can shut down areas as we go along, and can unplug the lights. There are no useful floor drains in any of the areas.
We have done some smaller projects on interior walls in this type of setting, but never ceilings or anything on this scale (interior). We know we need to use a neutral PH cleaning product that can be applied and rinsed off, that will not inhibit the paint performance. We also know that we will need 1 or 2 guys on the ground for water containment. The rooms will be heated, we can drive our trailered rigs inside and there is plenty of water source. We know low pressure will be necessary on the ceiling insulation and most other areas.
Hope I covered the majority of the issues here. So what I need help with is:
1) Suggestions on the type of cleaner to apply (preferably downstream).
2) Precautions to take working around the electrical areas. (Note - They will be replacing the existing light fixtures, but they will still be there during cleaning)
3) With two, experienced guys spraying, what would your time estimate be on sq. ft. per hour/day on the ceiling. (I figure this will take the most time. Yes, we will have motorized lifts. The competitors' bid states the entire job would take 5 days with 2 shifts of 2 crews. Don't know how many in a crew.)
4) Suggestions on water containment. (I have watched my competitor work on a similar project that I bid on, and they had just one guy on the floor with a walk behind janitors floor scrubber/vacuum, and that seemed to keep up to two sprayers. We got another portion of that job that wasn't PW related, so that's how I got to watch them.)
We are an experienced, competent PW company, looking at a "new" area of work, so please don't start with the "if you don't know, don't do it"! It has always been our practice to gather as much info and expertise when attempting to enter new areas of projects. That's why I'm posting this. I already know my competitors' pricing, and have an existing relationship with the customer, and good references from the painting people they're looking at. In other words, if I feel confident in performing this project safely, efficiently and to our quality standards, I can get it. Would equate to roughly 2 - 3 months of normal, winter revenue. It is also Phase I of the project, with continued work down the road, as well as another area of experience that we can build on.
Sorry for the length of this post, but wanted to relay most of the info without going back and forth. All help is greatly appreciated. If it's easier, you can call me directly at 262-305-4890. Happy Thanksgiving!!
We have done some smaller projects on interior walls in this type of setting, but never ceilings or anything on this scale (interior). We know we need to use a neutral PH cleaning product that can be applied and rinsed off, that will not inhibit the paint performance. We also know that we will need 1 or 2 guys on the ground for water containment. The rooms will be heated, we can drive our trailered rigs inside and there is plenty of water source. We know low pressure will be necessary on the ceiling insulation and most other areas.
Hope I covered the majority of the issues here. So what I need help with is:
1) Suggestions on the type of cleaner to apply (preferably downstream).
2) Precautions to take working around the electrical areas. (Note - They will be replacing the existing light fixtures, but they will still be there during cleaning)
3) With two, experienced guys spraying, what would your time estimate be on sq. ft. per hour/day on the ceiling. (I figure this will take the most time. Yes, we will have motorized lifts. The competitors' bid states the entire job would take 5 days with 2 shifts of 2 crews. Don't know how many in a crew.)
4) Suggestions on water containment. (I have watched my competitor work on a similar project that I bid on, and they had just one guy on the floor with a walk behind janitors floor scrubber/vacuum, and that seemed to keep up to two sprayers. We got another portion of that job that wasn't PW related, so that's how I got to watch them.)
We are an experienced, competent PW company, looking at a "new" area of work, so please don't start with the "if you don't know, don't do it"! It has always been our practice to gather as much info and expertise when attempting to enter new areas of projects. That's why I'm posting this. I already know my competitors' pricing, and have an existing relationship with the customer, and good references from the painting people they're looking at. In other words, if I feel confident in performing this project safely, efficiently and to our quality standards, I can get it. Would equate to roughly 2 - 3 months of normal, winter revenue. It is also Phase I of the project, with continued work down the road, as well as another area of experience that we can build on.
Sorry for the length of this post, but wanted to relay most of the info without going back and forth. All help is greatly appreciated. If it's easier, you can call me directly at 262-305-4890. Happy Thanksgiving!!
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