Jon,
Here's the problem I see. Like it or not if they would have said even one word you did. Maybe it would have been accepted and receive better from most.
You know what?
Since these pictures came out, I hear all of a sudden this product is not a cure all, it's only an absorbent, just another tool in the box, mainly an alternative to pressure washing for environmental reasons and so on.
If this product was presented from the beginning as all the above. I think it would have been received with more of an open mind as some say. I am sure it has great absorbent qualities.
But the bottom line is. It was present as if it was the cure all, and still is on there site.
Here are some things from their site.
All driveways and pavement, whether built with concrete or asphalt, have one thing in common. Sooner or later they will become blemished with grease, oil, transmission or brake fluids, or all sorts of unsightly stains. (See picture on left).
Pave-Clean is the solution to all of these problems. With
Pave-Clean, you can clean up oil stains, grease stains, and transmission and brake fluids using NO WATER! Pave-Clean is environmentally safe, incredibly easy to use, and produces results that you can see immediately!
(See picture on right) What are they saying here?
If the real world demo results don't look like the picture they refer to on the right. Why are we being referred to it? Shouldn't a more consistent result, be the photo we're referred too. If this statement and the referred photo doesn't give you the impression that this product is a cure all. Then again I apologize.
Right below the photos it has this statement (*above images are not retouched or altered in any way)
Again giving me the impression these incredible before and after pictures are the results I should expect. Above that it says don't be fooled by imitations.
Why allow Your Customers and Neighbors to see messy, unsafe concrete?
What Does This Mean?
I agree with the above statement, and if the results looked like your photos I think a lot of others would agree as well. But instead of a black greasy mess, we now have a black greasy mess with a hazy white hue.
I think my neighbors would still be angry.
With Pave-Clean you can
eliminate unsightly stains and your home or business will look its very best without emptying your wallet!
What Does This Mean?
I guess this statement with the photos doesn't indicate that this is a cure all product either?
Pave-Clean offers many advantages to conventional pavement cleaning. The results speak for themselves.
So, yes if the results look like the photo on pave clean's site. And NO if they look like the photos we now have seen from the demo. Also the 5 day after is the best. If a parking lane I cleaned looked like that 5 days later. I know I would get a call and the owner would say. I see a bill on my desk! But did you even come???? AHhhhhhhh YYYYaaaa I even used a new product called Pave Clean! (It’s says on their website in the FAQ section, that it's an excellent REPLACMENT to the traditional pressure washing techniques. Don't you like it? As I said I think people have a legitimate reason to the reaction we all have seen in these posts
Pave Clean is fast (most contractors report over 50% saving in labor time),
it provides a better result [What Does This Mean[/b]
I suppose the sentence above means the pave clean is not the cure all and is only another tool in the box??????
Ok this one is good
Pave-Clean has been in the commercial market for years and is fast
becoming the only answer for both commercial and home-owners' needs. Pave-Clean meets all EPA standards and will provide you with safe, effective and
consistent results every time. Not convinced yet? View actual results for yourself with the following before/after pictures as well as testimonials from actual clients.
What does this mean
Here is another statement indicating that this is only another tool and is not the cure all. Since you can't copy photos from there site. Here is the link to 3 very consistent results that are not very consistent with the demos.
Click here to see what you should expect from Pave Clean (as they say consistent results every time. What happen to the time at the demo?????????
Ok I know I sound sarcastic, but shouldn't I be?????
I feel that Pave Clean's website is very deceptive to say the least. I also feel that it is being marketed as a replacement to pressure washing and a cure all for unsightly oil and similar stains.
With an incredibly consistent result that looks just like new concrete, and we all should expect that result every time. There site indicated that this product will eliminate the stain in one easy application every time. Everything your read in this post is from their site.
Now that this wasn't all crack up to be what we thought. All I hear is this is an absorbent, not a cure all, just another tool in the box and it take several applications.
Doesn't say any of the three statements above, anywhere on thier website that I can see. Not only does it not say that on the site. It says all of the above instead (JUST THE OPPOSIT). The few comments you just stated Jon and many others stated. Came after the demo, which means that’s what they told you then. Well can someone explain their web site and comments on other bbs? Again if what you say Jon is how they said it. I think everyone could see that this product could be a tool some way or another. But They DIDNâ€T AND STILL DONâ€T!
I think that the contractors from the demo are saying one thing and pave clean web site and posts from other bbs are say just the opposite. What I don’t understand is why isn’t what I said above and what others have said being recognized. It’s plain to see. Instead a company that in my mind is marketing a product in a deceptive manner and as an eliminating stain cure-all. But people are defending them and saying they never said the above. When they have and still are. I would think most people would be angry. Not from the demo results but from the false claims.
I just don’t get it and can’t understand why when the facts are stated people get a little defensive instead of concerned about the deception.
Just my opinion, But I would like for anyone who might have the answer to provide them or even an opinion.
Why is it, when others including me give an opinion that isn’t exactly desirable in pave clean’s favor; considered bashing or negative. When they are only the facts that are provable. Should we just ignore this? I don’t think that’s what we should do. And yes I would drop it if there wasn’t a reason to bring it back up.
Hey I wish pave clean was a cure-all and to be honest I would accept it for what it is if it was promoted as something that it’s not.