Pump pulley problem

navigator

New Member
I'm the guy who recently had his Cat pump throw a rod...

After doing some math, it seems the pump was running at 1815 rpm, while it is designed to run at 1415 rpm. No doubt this contributed to its' demise.

Perhaps the problem arose due to the rail height on the pump, which puts the center of the crankshaft at 5 inches off the deck. My math tells me the correct pulley size (based on a 4.5 inch motor pulley) is 11.5 inches more or less, considerably larger then the 8.75 inch pulley that was on it. And too big to fit in the space allotted. My engine (18HP Vangard) runs at 3600 rpm, which is probably pretty common.

I looked at going to an AR pump which runs at 1750 rpm, so that a smaller (9.25 inch) pulley could be used, but now that I have a "spare" pump, I'm thinking I'll stay with Cat. But, I will need to raise the mounting height at least one inch, easy enough with steel tubing.

I guess I'm just looking for some feedback on other's experience with pulley sizes and mounting problems, and to verify I did my math right... :rolleyes:
 

north coast

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Pulley Equation

Required RPM = (Desired GPM x Rated) / Rated GPM

Pump Pulley Diameter = Motor Pulley Diameter x Motor RPM / Pump RPM
 
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Mark

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Navigator you could also change the driver (engine pulley)

3400 RPM engine RPM divided by 1415 pump desiredRPM = 2.40

Take the 8.75 existing pulley divided by 2.4 = 3.64

Leave the pump at the same height mounted to deck no spacers,
change the driver (engine pulley) to a 3.64

A 2BK34H sheave / pulley would get you pretty close.

(2BK34H Specifications: Two Groove Sheave, OD 3.55 Inches,
Bushing Required H, 4L or A Belt Pitch Diameter 2.8 Inches, 5L
or B Belt Pitch Diameter 3.2 Inches, Cast Iron )
 

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navigator

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Mark,

That sounds reasonable, but the pump was on a double pulley, so the motor is a triple; one runs the generator, so I would need to replace that pulley, too. It also runs at 3600 rpm. I have been surprised at how hard it is to find pulleys!

The engine rpm is 3600, so...

3600 RPM engine RPM divided by 1415 pump desiredRPM = 2.54

Take the 8.75 existing pulley divided by 2.54 = 3.44

(motor pulley) 3.44 x (motor) 3600 rpm / (pump) 1415 rpm = (pump pulley)8.75

Can you hook me up? The motor is model #350447 type #1247 E1, not sure of the shaft diameter. Thanks!
 

navigator

New Member
Mark,

Pump is installed with the same pulleys that were on it, and it fills a 5 gallon bucket in about 48 seconds (unrestricted flow), which is roughly 6.26 gpm, 1.26 gpm more than the pump is designed for. Looks like I'll need those smaller pulleys, after all...
 

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