reclaim waste water on sidewalk cleaning or not in Maryland???

jeffex11

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the last detail before I bid on acontract cleaning storefront sidewalks is the question of water reclamation. I can't see where its a problem but I'm shure someone here knows the RULE .
 

CaroliProWash

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Reclamation is a Federal rule.....it's in the Clean Water Act. There are other ways to handle waste water, ie, diversion for evaporation, which could be far less costly and just as effective. Bottom line is you just shouldn't let your water go into a storm drain, period. The EPA may not be enforcing in your area, but the fines you could get popped with could feasibly shut you down. It's important that you stay in compliance with the Federal and local regulations. You might call your City office - they may have it readily available to you.

Celeste
 

jeffex11

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thanks for the reply. I will put in my contract that my services will be performed per agreement barring any outside stop work interference by shopping center mgt. or unforseen circumstances to at least let me out of the contract if Ihavea problem
 
Hey Jeff,

If you have any further questions about it give me a call. I just went through an environmental cleaning and certification course and I operate in Maryland also. As Celeste said, all you have to do is stop water or any run off from going into the storm drains. It's fairly easy to do it also.
 

jeffex11

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thanks Henry!! the washing will be at night so the evep will take awhile. I have not done this commercial work before but I have been power washing for 16 yrs residential. My bid is high for this work so I don't have my hopes up but I will be looking to sub out some of the stores. If i get my bid I can pay $200 per store If you might be interested. Salsbury, waldorf, Belair, are just a few.
 

jeffex11

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I figure I can use my backpack blower to disperse the water to keep it from going down any storm water drains. I'm going to have to carry water in a tank for some of the stores IF I get this bid. what is a good guess on the gallons needed to clean 600-700 sq. ft.
 

squirtgun

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jeffex11 said:
I figure I can use my backpack blower to disperse the water to keep it from going down any storm water drains. I'm going to have to carry water in a tank for some of the stores IF I get this bid. what is a good guess on the gallons needed to clean 600-700 sq. ft.


I would venture a guesstimate of 1000 gallons.Will they be paying extra for you to bring water to the site?
 
Thanks for the opportunity on the stores, I'm a bit buried under work right now though but I know some people that could use the work. Give me a call sometime if you like and we can go over the details and the water reclamation stuff. One easy way to do it is to have a wet vac with a pump out that shoots the water into the grass where it will seep into the dirt.

1,000 gallons of water? I was figuring 500 tops, it depends on your equipment though...
 

Scott Stone

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Gee,
For me, it would only take 15 minutes to do that much and so about 75 gallons, max. Makes me stop and wonder what some are doing,


Scott
 

squirtgun

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Scott Stone said:
Gee,
For me, it would only take 15 minutes to do that much and so about 75 gallons, max. Makes me stop and wonder what some are doing,


Scott


Maybe I'm spending too much time on rinsing and gum.I actually did an area about this big last week with less than 150 gallons,but there was no gum and very light dirt.
For us the very light dirt places ae rare.Most haven't been cleaned in 20 years,so it takes more water,work etc.
 

CaroliProWash

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If you have a lot of this type work and on a consistent basis, have you looked into a surfacer that vacuums the water back up as it cleans? I know Landa makes one but I'm sure other manufacturers out there have them as well. It may be the ideal investment for you :)

Celeste
 

jeffex11

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I see alot of the trailer mounted wash units that have 200 to 300 gal. tanks so that must be the norm. I have always done residential and water was no problem. some stores may not have outside water and I will invest in a tank to carry water if the bid is taken. I already have a trailer for my lawn business and It will hold what I need until next spring when I will invest in a dedicated trailer for power washing. I will seek out water sources near the stores so I don't have to carry the water[weight on trailer ]from home on the longer distance runs. I understand you can get a meter and fill from a fire hydrant. I have done alot of research for this bid and even if I don't get this one I see the market for this service. It just seems harder to get to the person who makes the payment decisions in commercial work. I would have never believed chewing gum could cause such problems!!!!!
 

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jeffex11

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It looks like easy clean systems has some nice products .I would like to know how much the trailer is that has the hose reels and the tank as posted on another thread. My solution for now will be to dam around the storm drain to prevent waste water entry and disperse with my backpack blower.
 
Hey Jeff, that will work depending on how much water your putting out there. Believe it or not, you can get a fairly cheap wet/dry vac at home depot with a pump out that may help you out for about $100, depending on how much water your using of course. It's not professional equipment but it's easier than trying to blow it up around like your talking about. Then when you have the extra cash you can buy a better one.
 

jeffex11

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the back pack blowers are from my lawn business and they will roll a brick across a lawn they are so powerful. I use them to blow off decks so we can stain and wash decks in one day. I put in the bid mon. so I'm sure it will take time for the maintenance mgr. to decide and get other bids. Mine certantly won't be the cheapest but I will call in a few days and see what the verdict is. I'll defend my price based on EPA compliance and other p-wash jargon like biodegradable soap etc. The crew that cleans the floors is bidding also. I am working on a plan to go after this type of work even if this one gets away. I had no idea that gum was such a bid deal. I'm going to target local stores in my area for this service too. Thanks again for all the info here !! Temps are still good here this week so I booked a deck and siding job for friday. I usually winterize my equipment in Oct. and shut down. One bonus I found out that I WON'T have to carry water to the stores because the mgr. of the one that asked me in the first place said they will let me hook up to an inside source.
 

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