Does anyone know what type of distance I can get from a shur-flo pump? Here is the set up…. shur flo 1.8gpm at 60 psi (Northern Tool) 50 ft of 3/8 hose and a freshly charged battery. I want to be able to apply chem. to a house while also use it to apply chems to a deck. I was wondering if I will be able to reach the peak of second story home…..Just a side note I have learned a-lot from this board….THANKS.
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Thanks for the responses. I didn’t get the shur flow set up; I purchased a cat power nozzle to apply chems. I used it yesterday and it didn’t seem to work like an x-jet is described to work. It was only $50 so I thought it was worth a try. I will be ordering an x-jet soon. I am still going to get the shur flow for decks and fences
Henry Bockman
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Get the m5 xjet!!
I've got a sure deckster pump hooked up to my rig with an extra 200' hose reel and it's great. I can use it to pump chems to my x jet for house washes, or roof cleaning, strippers and nuetrilizers. I can also use it for applying sealers if I want.
I also mounted a similiar system in one of my vans for the same stuff along with a small pull around cold water unit. This one also has two 15 gallon tanks I fill up with sealer so I don't have to change buckets all the time when sealing.
I'll post some pictures when I get a chance but I think I've finally found the perfect setup for everthing.
I've got a sure deckster pump hooked up to my rig with an extra 200' hose reel and it's great. I can use it to pump chems to my x jet for house washes, or roof cleaning, strippers and nuetrilizers. I can also use it for applying sealers if I want.
I also mounted a similiar system in one of my vans for the same stuff along with a small pull around cold water unit. This one also has two 15 gallon tanks I fill up with sealer so I don't have to change buckets all the time when sealing.
I'll post some pictures when I get a chance but I think I've finally found the perfect setup for everthing.
Mathew Johnson
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I HAVE A SIMILAR SETUP. I have the same sureflow pump hooked up to 250 feet of xjet hose. On the end of it is a ballvalve with a quick connect. I pump to my M-5 or origonal X-Jet and spray the chems. It works awsum.
Henry Bockman
Member
Hey matt,
What size hose are you using with your setup? I'm using 1/4" hose. I was going to use the larger size that comes with the x jet but I noticed that the connectors seem to channel it down to a 1/4 opening at one point if not smaller so why bother using the larger diameter hose? I haven't had any problems with my setup and it allows me to put more hose on a smaller reel.
What size hose are you using with your setup? I'm using 1/4" hose. I was going to use the larger size that comes with the x jet but I noticed that the connectors seem to channel it down to a 1/4 opening at one point if not smaller so why bother using the larger diameter hose? I haven't had any problems with my setup and it allows me to put more hose on a smaller reel.
Mathew Johnson
New Member
3/8 inch hose
Just thought I would add that just because there are a few small sections in the 3/8" hose that size down to about 1/4" doesn't mean the flow is reduced to the same amount as 200' of 1/4" hose. Basicly, you still get far greater flow through the 3/8" (even with the narrow areas) than you will with the 1/4".
the_GUNN_man
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I actually switched from the X-Jet to a Shur-Flo setup. I really like it. I have the 60 psi 1.8 gpm. Sometimes I think it comes out too fast when applying chems. I really like it when applying deck chems. Much easier to move around and I don't have to worry about a bucket, chem line, and high pressure hose. All I have is my one chem line. We can really fly when I am ahead of the guy that is rinsing and he just follows me around the whole house. Goes very fast. One thing I have noticed is that since I have switched to the Shur-Flo I have not had a single problem with chems leaking from behind the siding like I did with an X-Jet. It is all about preference. I just prefer my Shur-Flo.
My Shur-Flo can shoot about 25 feet high with a "shooter" tip. I do not use the Shur-Flo lance. I just use the gun and then put a quick connect on the end so I can add a 3-4 foot lance or just use the gun by itself. I use theq/c tips. To get up high I use a zero degree tip drilled out (shooter tip).
I know you said you went another way but here is the info if you ever need it. One more thing is that I noticed when I climb up about 15 to 20 feet I lose serious power with my Shur-Flo. You made need a higher psi pump if you will be leaving it on the ground while you go up high.
My Shur-Flo can shoot about 25 feet high with a "shooter" tip. I do not use the Shur-Flo lance. I just use the gun and then put a quick connect on the end so I can add a 3-4 foot lance or just use the gun by itself. I use theq/c tips. To get up high I use a zero degree tip drilled out (shooter tip).
I know you said you went another way but here is the info if you ever need it. One more thing is that I noticed when I climb up about 15 to 20 feet I lose serious power with my Shur-Flo. You made need a higher psi pump if you will be leaving it on the ground while you go up high.
We plumbed a sureflo from the chem tank to the base of our high pressure hose reel so we're able to downstream...no buckets, hoses, etc. to tangle up or spill. Walk up to a house and start washing. Change tips on the wand and rinse. We cleared the top of a chimney on a two story house with ease (before Roger started trying to shoot the geese flying over). We still use our M-5 for other applications but for housewashing, this has helped with speed and increased the bottom line!
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the_GUNN_man
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I am confused. You use a Shur-Flo on your down streamer? Does that increase your chem out put when you downstream? Please explain I am curious.
The sure flo pumps the chems to the high pressure hose (after the "real" pump) The pump forces more chemical into the line when the downstream tip is on but we are actually using less chemical than when we x-jet. The actual amount of chems used will also fluctuate with the downstreamer you are using. When the tip is changed out to a higher pressure tip, the sure flo is not activated and the chems stop. It's pretty cool and it's working well for us for the moment 
Celeste
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the_GUNN_man
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Ok I think I know what you mean. Do you know how much you can get downstreaming with a inline Shur-Flo? What does a good downstream injector put out 6 to 1? I wonder what you are getting with the Shur-Flo. I stopped downstreaming house wash because the s/h would be too weak by the timne it hit the siding.
Henry Bockman
Member
Just thought I would add that just because there are a few small sections in the 3/8" hose that size down to about 1/4" doesn't mean the flow is reduced to the same amount as 200' of 1/4" hose. Basicly, you still get far greater flow through the 3/8" (even with the narrow areas) than you will with the 1/4".
Your point kinda makes sense but... what's the difference in output?
Is there some kind of scientific formulae to prove this? I'm thinking a 1/4 opening will only allow so much chemical through the opening (depending on the gpm and psi of the pump being the same in both hoses) If that's the case why would using a hose with the same size diameter of all the fittings put out less than a larger diameter hose with 1/4 fittings?????
I equate this to a kinked hose line, the potential for volume and pressure is there but it's been choked off by the kink in the line.
Sorry, I was too busy smoking during math and science class...
No comment on what I was smokin but.... I DID NOT INHALE!
yeh right..
Your point kinda makes sense but... what's the difference in output?
Is there some kind of scientific formulae to prove this? I'm thinking a 1/4 opening will only allow so much chemical through the opening (depending on the gpm and psi of the pump being the same in both hoses) If that's the case why would using a hose with the same size diameter of all the fittings put out less than a larger diameter hose with 1/4 fittings?????
I equate this to a kinked hose line, the potential for volume and pressure is there but it's been choked off by the kink in the line.
Sorry, I was too busy smoking during math and science class...
No comment on what I was smokin but.... I DID NOT INHALE!
yeh right..
Friction. I beileve the reason is that the smaller the hose means more of the liquid flowing through the hose is contacting the walls of the interior hose (which is not in motion) so therefore, the amount of flow and the speed of the flow is restricted. If there is a 1" section in the hose that has a smaller diameter it would slow the flow a little, but not even enough to notice the difference. A good example would be high pressure hose. When I run my surface cleaner with 200' of hose vs. 100' of hose I can see a huge drop in pressure and gpm and this is because the longer the hose the more friction there is to slow the flow of the water. If the way you were thinking were the case, than why make high pressure hose 3/8" interior diameter when the couplings, plugs, and hose reel have a 1/4" diameter, because despite those few obtrusions in the flow, the real factor that dictates it is the other 99% of unobstructed pathway.
Also, if you went from a 3/8" hose to a 1/4" hose because of the 1/4" obstructions (couplings, barbs etc.) than on the 1/4" hose your obtructions are now down to maybe an 1/8". and then you decide well I might as well go with 1/8" hose, well now your obstructions are down to 1/16". On and on till you have a solid piece of tube with no interior.
Henry Bockman
Member
It makes sense, I guess. I do know that some power washing contractors use 1/4 inch hose on their rigs though.
According to Shurflo
According to Shurflo you take the PSI divided by 1.3 for your distance.
45psi = 34.6 feet
150psi = 115 feet
You divide by 2.3 for purely verticle distance from chem to pump - If the pump and chem are next to each other you do not have to make this calculation.
According to Shurflo you take the PSI divided by 1.3 for your distance.
45psi = 34.6 feet
150psi = 115 feet
You divide by 2.3 for purely verticle distance from chem to pump - If the pump and chem are next to each other you do not have to make this calculation.