stripex

[Jon Fife]

happy easter everyone--

do any of you know if stripex will remove CWF-UV?? and how much can you dilute the 5 gallon concentrate???

another thing, i read all y'alls posts about cleaning decks and other wood and using like 1200 psi. how in the heck are you doing that?? i have tried all different strippers, cleaners, etc. and i always have to use high pressure to remove finishes or even just grey wood. i only work on pressure treated wood (live in southeast), but you guys still say that you can use really low pressure and dont have to pressure wash every square inch. i've been doing this a few years now, and i still have not figured out a way to clean with low pressure. this is really bugging me, so if you guys can think of something i am missing, please let me know. i feel like i am missing out on some better money. any help would be appreciated.

thanks,
jon

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[TLeClair]

I use the Industrial Strength Strip X. It is VERY strong but goes a long ways. I normally use about a cup of it in 5 gallons to take off old semi transparent stain. make sure to give it some dwell time and keep it wet, and neutralize when done with oxalic based brightener.
Todd
Exterior Preservation

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[JR Wood]

Where do you get industrial strength strip x?

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[Jon Fife]

hi JR,

the industrial strength is the powder form that only comes in the 5 gallon pail. Jim Bilyeu said it is pretty good stuff. i had to call biowash and ask them who a local dealer was, and then get them to order it. Mr. Bilyeu told me that you can mix it from 1:1 to 5:1. I am fixin to use it on Monday, and i'll report on how it does. the guys at biowash told me that they have re-formulated their stripex L and it is more powerful now, so i ordered a couple buckets of that also to try it out. The industrial stipex is costing me 82 dollars per 5 gal pail, and the stripex L is costing me 50 dollars for a 5er, but they say not to dilute it, but i'm sure i'll try to.

jon fife
nashville, TN
(615)837-3663

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[JR Wood]

Thanks Jon,
I'll see if I can get the only paint store I have found that sells it, to order me some.

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[ALL-BRITE]

Say Jon
Did you say that you get the industrial stripx in a powder form or a liquid? I have oly found it in the liquid form it almost looks like red jello before it is diluted. I dave had pretty good luck with it though.
I was not able to use it on latex though. Have you ever tried it on a latex sealer? Anyway thanks for the info . Tim

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Tim Highfield
ALL-BRITE POWERWASHING

 

[Jon Fife]

hi Tim

i am actually going to get some tommorrow and try it out and i will report on how it does with CWF-UV. But i am told that if you get it in the five gallon container, then it is industrial strength and is powder-form. I believe it was mr. bilyeu that told me he had good luck with it. it is going to cost me 82 dollars for a five gallon pail, but someone else priced it to me for 102, so i guess there is some wiggle-room in the prices. I figure that is a pretty cheap price for a good stripper. i'll report tuesday on my experience with strip-X.

jon fife

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[Jim Bilyeu]

Tim is right, Industrial Strip-X comes in a jell form. Looks like jello. Jon, I think you have their wood brightner, which is in a powder form (critic acid) confussed with the industrial Strip-X. It will do a good job for you once you get use to it.

Jim Bilyeu
Exterior Woodcare

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[Dan Flynn]

If you are paying that much money for strippers and brighteners, I have some swamp land in Florida I would like to talk to you about. That is completely out of line.

You are paying 50 and 80 dollars for 5 gallon buckets of chemicals you can get for 40 bucks per 55 pounds. Sorry you fell for that one. I wish I saw this post sooner. I would send it back if you can. But I'll bet that wont be easy.

Give me a call sometime and I will tell you the true about what you need and how to get it cheap. The only way that is a good deal is if that stripper removes solid stains and or latex paint. The citric acid price is ridiculous. The bucket probably cost more than the product.

Good luck

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Dan Flynn
Timberland Power Wash www.powerwash.net
Houston, Texas.

 

[Jim Bilyeu]

THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE ADVERTISING.

Dan,

As I've said before, I'm aleays looking for better products and ways of reducing the end cost to my clients. If you have a stripper that will do the same thing as Industrial Strip-X at a lower cost, let me know and I'll be more than happy to use it. Just send me a sample to test.

The attached picture is of a large home located in your neck of the woods. The owner could not find anyone in Texas that knew how or what to use to remove the old finish and do what he wanted done. This total job exceeded 80,000 dollars. This also included log replacement.

I just got back from doing a log home show in Reno Nevada. I signed a contract there to remove Sikins from an 11,000 square foot log home. (I'll tell you later who the owner is). The stripper I'll use cost 48.00 per gallon, close to $9000.00 in stripper (no mixing). If I could find a stripper that could remove this finish at a lower cost, I'd sure use it.

As I said before, this is not advertisment, the picture is to show you that Industrial Strip-X will in fact remove solid bass stains if used properly and it will also remove some latex finishes, some being the key word.

Jim Bilyeu
Exterior Woodcare

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[This message has been edited by Jim Bilyeu (edited April 24, 2001).]

 

[Dan Flynn]

Jim,

I realize you have great knowledge in wood restoration. So you should know that when most guys on this site are asking about strippers it has nothing to do with jobs like that. Also Your picture does not show for sure that the stain is solid. But lets assume someone is talking exactly about a job like your picture and that it's a solid stain, and standard stripper will not handle the job.

You should also know when I contractor runs into a job that has a stain on it that is hard to get off. He can go to Home Depot and and purchase Klean-Strip which is, funny enough also called Strip-X. It's cost is 15.00 to 25.00 or less per gallon. I can't remember. It will strip any stain with ease and latex paint if used properly. It will strip from wood, metal and masonry.

Sounds like you will be heading to Home Depot to save 50% or more. You said you would if I pointed it out. See ya there. What's with the Lok Wood picture. I don't think anyone asked to see that.

Bottom Line Guys, everything you need is right at your local store for less. Every time you hear this or that about this or that internet stripper, you can find it for half the price right in your home town. These are advertisement from people who are willing to sell you products at super high prices. But are not willing to pay for the cost of advertising properly. I am not saying that there are not good and fair priced products sold over the internet. Because there are many.

Sorry to sound harsh. That is not my point. I am just getting tired of people trying to take advantage of this bulletin board and green contractors. I am not trying to be big brother either. Just pointing out the facts. I feel that if someone is going to make a decision they should hear both sides of the story.

That should save you 4500 on your next big job. Cut me in on the savings. Also you obviuosly have a great sales pitch. Why don't you help out over at the marketing boards. 80 grand to strip a log home WOW. One story too, un-real

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Dan Flynn
Timberland Power Wash www.powerwash.net
Houston, Texas.

 

[Jim Bilyeu]

Dan,

Klean-Strip is manufactured by W.M. Darr Co. out of Memphis TN. There are three reasons why I don't use it. #1. It does not perform as well as you might think. #2. Read the MSDS/label #3. I only found one supplier out here that had it about two years ago and he said he was going to drop the line.

There are several strippers out there that I can get that are lot cheaper than what I will be using on that 11000 sq. foot home and do the same job. The only problem is that this home is in Calif. and if I got caught using them, it would cost me a whole lot more.
I know some people are not concerned about what they put on a house or deck as long as it is cheap and they can make a fast buck.

Yes, the house was an Olympic solid base stain and Industrial Strip-X took it off using a mixture of 3 parts water to 1 part concentrate. As for the cost being high, If the cost is, say $100.00 for a 5 gallon pail and you mix it 1 to 3, you wind up 15 gallons of stripper at a cost of $6.66 per gallon of usable product. Mixing 1 to 1, your cost per gallon would be $10.00 per gallon of usable product. This we very seldom have to do. The more you can delute it and still have it work for you, the cheaper it gets. Personally I don't think that is bad at all.

When I bid a job, I bid it knowing what products I'm going to use and how much they are going to cost. If I don't get the job, so what, some one else can do it.

As for the 80 thousand dollar job in Texas. If you had read my post you would have read that at that price, it included log replacement. We replaced 140 feet of bottom logs and and 165 feet of logs in the south wall because they were rotted out.

Sorry about the LOK-WOOD being on the picture. I tried to remove it but couldn't. I'm not a computer wiz like some of you. It was the only good picture that I had showing a solid base stain.

As I've said before, this industry is changing rapidly. I have seen more products, including strippers pulled off the market in the past decade than I had in the 20 years before. EPA is starting to come down hard and they are going to come down harder over the next decade. If we don't know what products to use, how can we stay in business??

BY the way, thank you for the compliment. My knowledge in the wood restoration field was gained by many years of failures and flustration over products. I probably paid more for my education in this field than most people pay for a collage education. I really love this industry. I'm really going to hate to leave it.

Jim Bilyeu
Exterior Woodcare

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[Dan Flynn]

You have made excellent points and explanations to my points. So that is the point I am trying to make. Everything needed, you can get at a cheaper price and can use, and will be effective if permitted in ones state.

However you kind of made it sound like it was wrong, more hazardous to the environment, and cheap and not as effect or the right thing to use on wood. So when people ask, I think it is ok to rave about the product that is effective that one uses. But if known should add the other products and avenues to get the products that are equal in all aspect or better.

By the way, I LOVE YOU MAN

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Dan Flynn
Timberland Power Wash
www.powerwash.net
Houston, Texas.

 

[jhb]

I would also be interested in a cheaper stripper than Stripex-L.
Also, Mr. Flynn, I clicked your link and it went to an open domain. You may have a problem.
One last thing, I am register but am unable to see anyones profile to get their email. I have seen statement from various individuals and have been unable to get their emails to respond to them.

thanks

JHB