Twp

[Jon Fife]

Hello gentlemen,

Any of you ever use TWP?? Didn't you use to use it some GregGCR?? I am interested to hear some feedback from anyone that has used it themselves. I am sure you have come on to decks with badly failed twp (or anything else for that matter) but without seeing the application and preparation you can't make an accurate judgement of a product (my opinion)

So is anyone using or not using it for any reason?? I just did a deck today with it (cedar tone) and it was absolutely beautiful. I really liked the cedar color better than other products i have used (readyseal, superdeck) I'd really like to hear any input yall have on this product.

jon fife
nashville,tn

by the way, check out greg@gcr's website if you get a chance, it is really nice, good job greg timberseal.com

 

[Aplus]

I've been using TWP CedarTone for the past three years. I absolutely endorse it! If the surface is properly prepared and dry, the product lasts as good, or better, then any other cedartoned product. I cannot say that about certain other products I have used.

When a customer has a deck with a failing finish, and proceeds to tell me they did the job themselves, I know that it is likely improper technique that caused the premature failure. Naturally, my good experiences have resulted from proper cleaning and preparation techniques.

Now, in my area, the cedartone is very popular, probably 75% of my customers want it. The dense pigmentation holds up very well against UV damage.


The next popular request is clear, or natural, with minimal color change. Being in the north, with snow, ice, freezing, and yes, even hot days, I have not found a clear/natural sealer that will hold up beyond one year. Now I know a lot of guys will holler that brand x, or brand z works for them, but every situation is different. I do not use TWP clear for these requests, because it does not contain pigments, therefor rapidly greys out, and looks bad after the first year. I've also used TWP Redwood, and TWP Light Oak with good results as well.

Here is an analogy I like to use that bears out the truth: More pigmentation provides better UV protection, and, just like fair skinned people burn in the sun easier than darker skinned people, wood is really no different in that respect. Afterall, UV light inflicts the greatest damage on wood surfaces, or any surface for that matter. Just look at dashboards, and vinyl tops in cars down south....cracked, faded, and generally destroyed in a matter of a few years.

Not to sound like a pitchman for their products, but my local commercial paint store carries their entire line, and I've used many of their products, and have always been very pleased. In general, I feel that if you can use the various products in a given line, you sometimes are better off. But this is not always the case....as in even Floods own products do not remove CWF, but that's another story.


Having had many opportunities to see the long term results of properly applied TWP, I can give it an enthusiastic thumbs up. Now stand back and listen to the roar of opposition....

 

[Bridget]

I'll second that.

Tony is absolutely right about TWP. The decks we do on the western side of the State are all done with TWP Cedar Tone. In the time we've been using it, we have yet to receive one complaint. Of course as Tony mentioned, a lot has to do with the prep and application process.

Bridget

 

[reedsterstl]

TWP is made here in St Louis. I redo more decks with a failed TWP finish on them than any other type. I won't use it. I see all the different effects that cause TWP to fail. Beleive me it fails sooner than other sealers, no matter what technique is used. But all sealers will fail, it just depends on the elements and the usual conditions that affect wood and sealers/stains. Oh did you know that the price TWP is slated to go up.

 

[rvagnoni]

Jon,

We don't use TWP, but if it works well for you...keep on using it

 

[Aplus]

I'm not aware of specific price increases, but I do know they are currently in the process of re-organizing, so that is bound to cost us more money.

 

[Greg Rentschler]

Hi Jon,


Sorry..... I totally overlooked your post. Thanks for the kudos on the web site. We have totally revamped it this year in order to draw in and educate customers and essentially impress them before they even call us.

About TWP.... we use it but not a whole lot. We have probably applied it to 20 or so decks. I feel it is an excellent product but it is just another tool in our belt. I am a real stickler for color(s). If a customer tells me they are looking for a certain appearance I like to have a product available that will satisfy their needs. With this in mind we use Ready Seal and TWP on decks and fencing where a natural look is desired. Menco (Menwood 200) is more common on siding or log dwellings or where a more specific color is desired (reds, greens, etc..) as well as those jobs where more pigmentation is required (aged .. no so pretty wood). Basically they all have their place!

Thanks again

http://www.timberseal.com
http://www.esawdust.com

 

[rvagnoni]

Greg...nice website!


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