What size water tanks do you recommend

copgib

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I am planning to rig a enclosed trailer that is 7' X 16' with 2-water tanks, 1-for reclaim water and 1-for fresh water. My question is what size tanks do you recommend? I realize they will be square maybe next to each other.
 

Aplus

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The real question is how much weight your trailer can handle. Add up your rig, equipment, etc, then figure how much of the weight capacity you have left.

If only one tank at a time will be filled, then twin 300's would be nice. I don't think you'll have capacity to go much higher.

Don't forget the GVRW includes the weight of the empty trailer.
 

copgib

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Water Tanks

The GVWR for teh trailer is 7000 pounds. I should be able to utilize two 300-gallon tanks with no problem even with the additional equipment. I also have to trsearch how to plum these tanks, one for reclaim and one fir fresh water. Thanks
 

Aplus

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For ballpark figures:

Empty trailer 2000
Hot water rig 750
Fuel & chems 150
Hoses & reels 150
Empty tanks 150
Reclaim equip 150
Misc equip 150
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3500

You now have 3500# left.

3500/8.75 = 400 gallons water max.

Your truck will need to be at least 3/4 ton.

A 16' trailer may not be long enough to accomodate 2 400 gallon tanks and the rest of the equiment.
 

copgib

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Water Tanks

Tony the two water tanks would be 300-gallons each. Wouldn't a Chevy 2500 be enough to pull the trailer? The tanks will be in the trailer so the truck being a heavy duty Chevy 2500 should pull it without a problem.
 

MR ALAN

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That 150 is mighty light on the reclaim, as most people use a generator to power it up. The generator itself will weigh that.
A dual head wet vac will be another 50-60, not to mention some kind of water filter for the recovered stuff.
My recovery weighs in at about 700lbs, not including the extra tank, vacuum hose, and misc. It all adds up quick.
 

Aplus

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A 2500 truck is 3/4 ton, so the truck is adequate.

Depending how much space the reclaim equipment requires, you will be tight on space in a 16 footer.

I have a rectangle 330 gallon, which measures 50" long X 43" wide.

Figure almost 4 feet for each tank, and 4 feet for your machine, and you have only 4 feet left. By the time you include supplies and suface cleaners, that space goes fast. I don't know how much space a reclamation system would take. Mr Alan can answer that.

It's easy to outgrow a trailer before you know it.

Of course you can put some stuff in your truck to garner more space in the trailer, but don't forget that stuff in your truck bed also counts toward your max GVRW.

Just trying to throw thoughts/ideas out and about.
 

copgib

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Water Tanks

Tony, I planned to put both tanks together and then make a wood tray on top for all my loose items so cabinets ect will not be needed. Wands and brooms ect will be hung on the side walls. I have to do with what I can afford.
 

MR ALAN

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My trailer is a standard All American Streamliner II with an added rack for the vacuum and water recycler. I also removed the chemical rack and used that space for the vacuum waste tank. The Generator rides in the truck. If the trailer were fully loaded with 460 gallons of water and full fuel tanks with water in the recycler, it would be would be about 6500lbs, on a 7000lb rated trailer. I rarely ever have everything full at the same time. I tow this with a F250 V10.
 

Aplus

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Just remember that Alans is an open trailer which weighs considerably less than an enclosed trailer.

The wood shelf on top of the tanks is a good idea, but remember that's where the water goes in. Some guys like to install a Hudson float valve on top so that when re-filling, they don't have to worry about overflows. If you go that route, you'll need access on top too.
 

MR ALAN

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Hugh,
Here is a picture from a few months ago. If this were in an enclosed trailer, things would have to be different.
From the specs that I have seen, All Amercian is one of the heavier skid units out there, weighing 850 lbs not counting the 2-18 gallon fuel tanks.
I also use the Hudson Float valve that Tony speaks of. I like it for the most part, but it has failed a few times, and needed a good slam or two.
 

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Michael T

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Alan, If your trailer is 7000lb that would be GVW. Running everything full is it 6500lb GVW? Maybe Im asking a question you have already answered for yourself.
 

MR ALAN

New Member
Michael,

Good question. As I understand it, GVW to mean "gross vehicle weight". Is that correct?
The axles are as you see 2, and rated at 3500lbs each. So with that 7000 max axle rating and the 6500 weight of equipment where do I stand.
Like I said earlier, I rarely ever have everything full at the same time. So I have not really worried about it. Maybe you can help me to understand it better.
 

Michael T

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Alan, That is correct GVW = Gross Vehicle Weight. 2-3500lb axles = 7000lb GVW. That means 7000lbs total, trailer + payload, not to exceed 7000lbs. Do you have trailer brakes on one of the axles? If you are running loaded and have to panic stop, that trailer is going to want to push you. I pull a 16' flatbed w/550gal tank + equipment. And Iam close to the max. I use a F350 CC diesel, which weighs 8000lbs and it pull and stops it real well. But sometimes I have to use the F150 to make short trips around local and you have to give yourself plenty of room, because the trailer out weighs the truck 2 to 1. So pulling with your F250 wont be a problem. Just dont overload your trailer. Hope this makes some sense to ya.
 

MR ALAN

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Thanks Michael, it makes sense, and yes I do have electric brakes on one axle. That 6500 lbs also included the trailer itself, so when I say 6500, that is everthing that sits on those trailer wheels.
 

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