Wolman F & P Sealer users-I need some help

[Shawn George]

Need some help.

I had a request from a customer to use a very light toner on a deck we refinished. Was thinking I would use Wolman F & P golden pine finish. I really like the F & P sealer, but have not tried this color. The "Natural" color is too brown for what the customer wants.

Has anyone used this, and if so, how close does it come out to the color shown in the samples brochure.

Anyone experimented with adding a little "natural" (light brown)color to darken it up a little. We recommend against clear sealers because of the lack of UV protection. Would like to get a little darker than the sample shows for added UV protection.

Any thoughts? Thank you,

Shawn

 

[tzahlman]

I had a problem with the natural. It was darker than what was on the can and had a real suprise when i applied it. Luckly it was a family member who understood.

 

[johny]

You could consider Ready seal,color gold,loks beautiful and sounds just what your costumer wants,wont last as long as darker colors so
Just a thought
Johny

 

[Mike Hughes]

Ready Seal "gold" is an option, but it will only last about 12 to 18 months.

Tzahlman, I bet if you go back and look at that deck now it is not so dark............they are usually darker when you first apply........

 

[tzahlman]

Thanks Mike

You were right. It did lighten up what a relief!

Thanks Tom

 

[Shawn George]

Thanks for the suggestions guys,

I think for this deck I will experiment box mixing 2 gallons of Golden Pine with a dash of Natural and see how it comes out.

Hey Mike H., I just got some samples of Ready Seal so I'm going to use on some scrap lumber and see how it works. If I understand correctly, the ready seal product is like an oil that spreads water out so it dries quicker, rather than beading the water on the surface. Is this right?

I also like the idea of not having to worry about lap marks and puddles. Do you spray on or brush this stuff?

I'll post after we seal the deck and let you guys know how the mixing goes. (gotta wait for the rain to stop.)

Thanks again,
Shawn

 

[Mark]

Shawn,



One of the contractor customers who does decks exclusively, mixes Golden Pine & Redwood 50%/50% and swears this is the best color for 95% of the decks he does. (95% of the decks are redwood in Northern California)



We have been selling his company Wolman F&P for about 4 years now, and he swears there is nothing better.



You might want to try that mixture.

 

[Shawn George]

Thanks Mark,

We'll try that some time.

We ended up mixing in a little "natural" color with the Golden pine. Customer loves the color, and we are happy that we put a little more UV protection on the deck.

We had another problem with this one though. The wood was so dry that the railing sucked in a little over 2 gallons of sealer. Two gallons should have been enough to do the whole deck with quite a bit left over. (10 x 10 deck) We brushed the railing, so I know there was no wasted sealer. Oh well, learned something new.

Now we get to remix the special color to match the deck floor.

Thanks for the responses.
Shawn

 

[Larry Ray Staton]

What ratio F & P natural / golden Pine?

I'm interested in knowing what ratio was used. I want to do my own deck, 12 x 36 w/ rails. I did my front covered porch in FP Cedar and it's a little too dark for my liking, but oh well, done now. I don't want to make the same mistake on my deck. I have just stripped behr, fir/pine/spruce that was applied. Used Wolman Deck Strip, did a good job. I also neutralized with oxalic
Please someone provide me some suggestions. I like a honey color. Thanks in advance

 

[Shawn George]

Hi Larry,

We had a smaller deck to do. Our mixture was 2 gal of "Golden Pine" and 1 1/2 cup of "Natural". Dosn't seem like much, but seemed to darken up the grain of the wood. (you may want to add even more "natural")

We ended up with Honey brown color, and hopefully we added enough tint to give a little more sun protection.

Customer loved the color. Color will lighten for two- three days after application, so don't panic if it looks too dark when you first put it on.

Good luck, let us know how you like the color.

Shawn

 

[Beth]

Yeah, the "natural" is more like a diluted coca cola color....that's what we explain to people. The Golden Pine is really more "natural" than the Natural is. Go figure.

 

[Larry Ray Staton]

I just stained my P/T deck today. 12 x 36 w/ rails I used F&P Golden Pine with 1 cup/gallon of F&P Natural in the mix. It's really nice. It's a nice "honey color" I used a little golden pine at first, but it was a little light/yellow. The cup of natural I think was just right. Thanks Shawn George for the information. I used some natural on a porch swing and it's actually not "natural" is more of a medium brown color. Just wanted to let everyone how it turned out. I have learned so much from this board. Thanks everyone.

 

[Mike Hughes]

Originally posted by Shawn George
Hey Mike H., I just got some samples of Ready Seal so I'm going to use on some scrap lumber and see how it works. If I understand correctly, the ready seal product is like an oil that spreads water out so it dries quicker, rather than beading the water on the surface. Is this right?



I also like the idea of not having to worry about lap marks and puddles. Do you spray on or brush this stuff?

Thanks again,
Shawn

I used to think it didn't bead.......but I have seen some decks wet recently, and the water does lay on top of the wood..........I have not heard that is "spreads water out so it dries quicker" It is oil based though.
I do both......I brush it on and spray it. I try to spray as much as possible, but sometimes your surroundings and/or conditions prohibit spraying. I almost always spray the floor though.........I like to put several light coats on the floor (Chris Detter style.... )

Make sure your sample board is good and dry when you seal it.......and put enough on there........