A question for you x-jet users. How do you keep the chemical from getting behind the siding through the weep holes using one of those babies, especially if the home is two or more stories high? I have been washing houses using the twin-chem method for quite some time with a telescopic wand and instruct my guys to spray the chemical perpendicular with the side of the house in order to keep the chemical form getting behind it and causing run out and seepage. The cleaner we use reacts with the thermal barrier paper and runs out whatever color it happens to be. A lesson learned many moons ago was that no mater how much we rinsed the discoloration did not go away. So are you guys getting on ladders or are you using a weak cleaner that doesn’t react with the thermal barrier paper? I can’t possible see how you can stand on the ground and inject cleaner to a side of a house with a x-jet without shooting some of the cleaner in through the weep holes and causing a bloody mess. Thanks a lot and appreciate any input.
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water behind the sideing? It is mfg to have rain water to fall on it from top to bottom. Never the reverse.
So you apply your chem from top to bottom in a "rain like" or "arch".
if you are getting enuff chem chem behind the surface to cause a leaching of color from the backard board your doing something way wrong.
A smooth plastic suface will not need much to get it clean. It is prob. the easyist surface to get clean. Dense,non-pourous,smooth,plastic. What could be easyer?
You need to change the angle of your application and 99% of your problems would be solved.
When you wash a window, you clean the glass. Not put pressure on the seals.
Think about the mfg. of the surface your cleaning.
Vynal is one of the few surface's you apply chem from the top down and rinse from the top down. Why? because of the way they mfg. it.
One other thing, i think of a x-jet as a downstreamer not a washing tool. Allthough some use it as one.
You say you "twin chem"
what kind of soil are you removing?
What are your chems?
Do you downstream through your extension wand?
Do you spray water/chem against the overlap? This would be the only way to get a volume of water/chem behind the sideing to get the weepage your talking about? Am 1/8 th hole every 16 inc should not be getting the volume of chem behind it your talking about.
Got a pic?
So you apply your chem from top to bottom in a "rain like" or "arch".
if you are getting enuff chem chem behind the surface to cause a leaching of color from the backard board your doing something way wrong.
A smooth plastic suface will not need much to get it clean. It is prob. the easyist surface to get clean. Dense,non-pourous,smooth,plastic. What could be easyer?
You need to change the angle of your application and 99% of your problems would be solved.
When you wash a window, you clean the glass. Not put pressure on the seals.
Think about the mfg. of the surface your cleaning.
Vynal is one of the few surface's you apply chem from the top down and rinse from the top down. Why? because of the way they mfg. it.
One other thing, i think of a x-jet as a downstreamer not a washing tool. Allthough some use it as one.
You say you "twin chem"
what kind of soil are you removing?
What are your chems?
Do you downstream through your extension wand?
Do you spray water/chem against the overlap? This would be the only way to get a volume of water/chem behind the sideing to get the weepage your talking about? Am 1/8 th hole every 16 inc should not be getting the volume of chem behind it your talking about.
Got a pic?
I understand what your saying about the application of chemicals, however, it doesn’t take much pressure to get chemical behind vinyl even with a soap nozzle, through weep holes or the overlap. Also it doesn’t take much of that to get behind them and cause problems as far as run out. (I guess it depends on the chemical) We apply the cleaner at right angles keeping the nozzle perpendicular to the side of the home, furthermore we ensure that all the chemical is out of the line before we switch down to a smaller orifice nozzle so the we don’t inadvertently get chemical behind the siding under pressure when we start to rinse. That arch you mentioned, how large is that have to be to apply the chemical if you’re working on a two-three-story house? I couldn’t imagine spraying a chemical onto a house with a stream of chem that could potentially be 40-75 feet at the apex. It’s a control thing, knowing where it’s going and so forth. We use an Alkaline cleaner followed up with an acid neutralizer. It’s applied down stream, not at the wand. We put an injector in the middle of a hose section (2- 50 foot sections) with a man operating the injection and one on the wand. We primarily use extension wands for taller structures and so forth and regular lances for on the ground applications. What kind of chemicals do you use? As far as the types of soil, it ranges from mold, mildew, carbon deposits and surface oxidation to name a few. The twin chem method employed with hot water works great and as a result we can clean with a lot less pressure. Generally speaking we rarely switch out the soap nozzle to get this done. We then follow up with a sealant that inhibits mold and mildew as an added service to complete the job. As for the picture of run out, no I don’t have on, we train our guys the correct way and it has never happened since I leaned that lesson myself. I was just inquiring as to how one uses the X-jet with out causing that problem. I appreciate the reply and thanks again.
im not saying i dont get some weepage at times but have learned to cut it down to a very min.
Sometimes the greenery makes it diffacult.
I use a 72"lance and im 6ft 2 to get height.
My chem is mostly limonlene,bleach/6% and sometimes 12%,
and my truck wash. I was adding a squrt of Dawn to my mix to get sud's but am currently going to use a high sud's soap that wont strip wax like dishwashing soap will. I have used WESTLY'S car wash from NAPA and like it.
Im a big fan of 2 stepping[twin chem]. Most of my truckwashing is done by 2 stepping.
I very seldom have to get higher then the peak of a 2 story home.
The x-jet is a great tool but not the ans. to every situation.
you use alk. and then acid
i understand how that work's. I just cant see having 2 guy's wash a house.
i use PLEX-MASTER to seal the house.
Sometimes the greenery makes it diffacult.
I use a 72"lance and im 6ft 2 to get height.
My chem is mostly limonlene,bleach/6% and sometimes 12%,
and my truck wash. I was adding a squrt of Dawn to my mix to get sud's but am currently going to use a high sud's soap that wont strip wax like dishwashing soap will. I have used WESTLY'S car wash from NAPA and like it.
Im a big fan of 2 stepping[twin chem]. Most of my truckwashing is done by 2 stepping.
I very seldom have to get higher then the peak of a 2 story home.
The x-jet is a great tool but not the ans. to every situation.
you use alk. and then acid
i understand how that work's. I just cant see having 2 guy's wash a house.
i use PLEX-MASTER to seal the house.
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degraffreed
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Ron,
Could you explain "Two stepping with chems". I washed my first home last Saturday. Did great job, homeowners very pleased. I want to make sure I do not get water behind the siding. Once I get close to the laps I ither move upward to the row above the lap or below the lap. Any help for the rookie would be helpful.
Degraff
Could you explain "Two stepping with chems". I washed my first home last Saturday. Did great job, homeowners very pleased. I want to make sure I do not get water behind the siding. Once I get close to the laps I ither move upward to the row above the lap or below the lap. Any help for the rookie would be helpful.
Degraff
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degraffreed
Guest
Ron,
What is Weepage? Is this the run off from the siding in vertical patterns when housewashing?
Degraff
What is Weepage? Is this the run off from the siding in vertical patterns when housewashing?
Degraff