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oneness

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OrangeCrest said:
Other than President Reagan, the answer would be unqualified. One needs the military bearing in order to know how to prevent war, and not be a warmonger like our current dictator/president.

LOL!!! Oh so much Bulls*it. What do you think you have military advisors for? One of the best Presidents we've ever had was Reagan, and he had no real military experience.

Do you really think that some schmuck in the military carrying around a pack and a rifle and trying not to get his ass shot off is learning how to prevent war 40 years later when he is President???



OrangeCrest said:
The best person to have in office is a retired military general. Want peace? Put a general in office.

It takes more than being patriotic, it takes someone who has the discipline that a military officer gains through the strict routine and values the military instills into their personel, which the majority carry through life with pride.

LOL!!! Being a General doesn't stop those who hate us from attacking us. Being wise doesn't stop those who hate us from attacking us. Being peaceful doesn't stop those who hate us from attacking us.

So no one but a military general has the values to lead this nation??? Only the military can instill discipline, values, or routine???



OrangeCrest said:
Since Bush Jr was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and daddy influenced every step he made in life, Bush Jr does not qualify to be classified as the chosen few to be qualified under this definition of someone qualified to lead our country, and has proven it from his actions as an out of control puppet for his daddy.

LOL!!! You're really the first person I've seen suggest that Bush Sr. has had any hand in directing the actions of GW....Silliness. Sounds to me like you're jealous of those who were born priviledged. Being priviledged doesn't disqualify one from leading.
 
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oneness said:
LOL!!! Oh so much Bulls*it. What do you think you have military advisors for? One of the best Presidents we've ever had was Reagan, and he had no real military experience.

Do you really think that some schmuck in the military carrying around a pack and a rifle and trying not to get his ass shot off is learning how to prevent war 40 years later when he is President???

Military advisors? Yeah, we all know how much Bush listens to them...

oneness said:
"Do you really think that some schmuck in the military carrying around a pack and a rifle and trying not to get his ass shot off is learning how to prevent war..."

Don't ever recall seeing a general carrying around a pack and a rifle and trying not to get his ass shot off.

"One of the best Presidents we've ever had was Reagan..." at least in our life time.

As in President Reagan's words, "Peace Through Strength," does not apply to Bush, his words are more like peace through... ??? Well I guess it would be, "Peace Through Removing Me From Office."

As in the words of President Ronald Reagan, "...I hope it will record that I appealed to your best hopes, not your worst fears; to your confidence rather than your doubts..."

It will be recorded that Bush Jr was dead opposite of President Reagan's hopes.

I wear a Reagan shirt that has "Republican for Kerry," because I am one of those that address himself as a Reagan Republican.

Bush is setting himself up pretty with the passing of "self-serving" laws. Top 2%, high energy cost (Oil Man), re-hauling of the inheritance tax, and much much more...

Even Hitler came to power and had his own agenda by posing that he was fighting for the population’s rights and guarantees to better their lives.

If the world leaders of the time of Hitler would have read Hitler’s Mein Kampf http://www.crusader.net/texts/mk/index.html or http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/ they would have been able to intercept Hitler before he was able to kill off the millions of Jews and cause one of the bloodiest wars the world has ever witnessed.

Perhaps if you were to read Hitler’s Mein Kampf you will be able to see the similarities between the two.


oneness said:
LOL!!! Being a General doesn't stop those who hate us from attacking us. Being wise doesn't stop those who hate us from attacking us. Being peaceful doesn't stop those who hate us from attacking us.

So no one but a military general has the values to lead this nation??? Only the military can instill discipline, values, or routine???

A General knows when to push buttons and when not to... When to send in troops, when not to... Already has that chip removed from his shoulder...


oneness said:
LOL!!! You're really the first person I've seen suggest that Bush Sr. has had any hand in directing the actions of GW....Silliness. Sounds to me like you're jealous of those who were born privileged. Being privileged doesn't disqualify one from leading.

How do you think the idiot got into office? His own mother said he would never make it!

Notice Bush never says the famous Reagan phrase "Ask yourself, are you better off than you were eight years ago?"

I am very surprised to see Kerry not monopolize on that phrase.

Ask yourself, are you better off than just four-years ago? If not, I don't see why not... With all the tax breaks and the huge surplus that your buddy turned into the high deficit ever in just four years. So will we be jumping the boarder in four years to tap into Mexico's job market?

I think you are caught up in the election year hype!! I think you need to refresh your mind on exactly what happened in the last four years... Stop listening to Bush and Kerry and pick up some pass issues of newspapers and magazines from the passed four-years.

"...Sounds to me like you're jealous of those who were born privileged. Being privileged doesn't disqualify one from leading..."

LOL!! If you only knew...
 
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oneness

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I see...You're one of those who believe Bush is stupid? Those who actually know him don't hold the same opinion (even those who don't agree with him). I've really only seen far-left whacks calling him stupid.

He can't use that phrase...many aren't better off than they were 4 years ago...We were just at the tail end of an economic boom. We were pre-9/11. We were pre-stock market crash. The question that needs to be asked is "Do you think you're better off now than you would have been had Al Gore won in 2000? Have GW's plans and policies had a positive impact on your life? Do you WANT higher taxes? Do you WANT to answer to the UN? Do you WANT to fund health care for everyone? Etc etc.

Yes, I'm much better off than I was 4 years ago. How about you?

If you're going to accuse me of being caught up in election year hype, please be more specific. Oh, and learn the proper uses of the terms "passed", "pass", and "past".

LOL!! If I only knew what? You were born rich, influential, and priviledged? Yeahright.
 
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OrangeCrest

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"You're one of those who believe Bush is stupid?..." Believe it? He confirms it to the world when ever he opens his mouth. This is a fine example what happens when teachers, instructors, professors and more shouldn't give passing grades simply because of his families status and money that passes hands during the process of entering a school or receive training or postions that he otherwise wouldn't be qualified.

“…Oh, and learn the proper uses of the terms "passed", "pass", and "past".â€

Oh, you mean like “priviledged,†and privileged? When did the word "yeahright" become a single word? You also may want to note that "past". is incorrect punctuation as well, unless you are from England. The correct punctuation is "past."

I don’t recall seeing that this board required MLA styled formal writing and proof reading on top of that…

Should we use footnotes and have biographies as well?

“…You were born rich, influential, and priviledged?…â€

Bush wasn’t born rich; his parents were rich. Bush isn’t influential, or we would have a real coalition and the U.N. and the world would be backing his unlawful act. Privileged? The world questions this as well…
 
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OrangeCrest

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Mark said:
Check out "Stolen Honor"

www.stolenhonor.com
[puke] Kerry makes me puke! [puke]
<i> How is my punctuation?</i>

Ha Ha Ha!! I think it passes the test Mark, LOL!!

Sorry, but what Bush and Kerry did 30-plus years ago doesn't effect my opinion of either one of them; otherwise, we would also be taking in account of Bush's drunken and drug abusive PAST as well, which is very well publicly known.

I hate hearing about their Vietnam pluses and minuses because all they are doing is trivializing the war that thousands gave their lives to fight and fought with honor and some with nothing but survival in mind.

Besides, does anyone even know how we got into the war?

The Maddox was sailing past South Vietnamese gunboats which--with U.S. planning and support-- had just raided a North Vietnamese island, it had steamed near the coastline, deliberately provoking North Vietnamese radar defenses. The second "attack" apparently never occured; it was imagined by an inexperienced sonar man in dark and stormy seas... (i)

The key word here is the "imagined." If you were in the military, the imagined is a helpful hint from the commanding officer standing over your shoulder helping you see something that wasn't there.

Who cares if Kerry did or didn't do what he and others claim he did or didn't do? There were many that went there and fought for years and came home and there were others that died within hours of stepping off the plane.

Who cares is Bush got any special treatment and was AWOL? Thousands also got special treatment, and who wouldn't have taken the chance if it were given to them? Again, tens of thousands died for this war that was never even classified as being a war but rather a policing.

If I were judged for being the same person I was when I was in high school, we would all have a problem.

As the saying goes, a tiger doesn't change its strips over night... That's just it, overnight!! Listening to Bush's speeches, one would think he was the greatest thing since sliced bread, but if you step back and have the facts, Bush's record doesn't even match Bush's record.

If you were ever in the military, you know that what is relayed to the public is surgar coated and the true ways of the military will never be known except for those that experience it first hand.

If anyone thinks that the U.S. goes around just handing out candy and cruise the world like the cowboy in the white hat, you are snowed and you are much better off believing that.

There is a reason the U.S. govenment rules the world the way we do, if we didn't we would be over run the sameday.

We are exposed to the world right now, and if China wanted to, they could walk right in. We are at their mercy right now. Also, if you think Russia is poor and dis-armed or has a limited means of firepower, you are again, snowed.

Lennon said that they will take over America without firing one shot... If Bush keeps it up by over extending our military, it could very well happen.

Just as President Reagan said, "Peace Through Strength," the only thing that keeps the U.S. from being taken out is the Nukes that are all over the world pointed at one another.

As for reducing the Nukes, do you really think the U.S. would reduce our stock pile of Nukes without having something better?

Just like President Bush Sr. stated during the first golf war when questioned by a reporter, "What if Hussein Uses Chemical Warfare?"

His reply, "He doesn't even want to go there."

Case and point.

I don't care for Kerry, but I care for Bush Jr. even less... I am making the choice of the lesser two evils, and in my eyes, Bush is pure evil!!

(i) E. Greenberg, B. Page, The Struggle for Democracy (HarperCollinsChoice, 1995), pg. 149
 
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oneness

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OrangeCrest said:
"You're one of those who believe Bush is stupid?..." Believe it? He confirms it to the world when ever he opens his mouth. This is a fine example what happens when teachers, instructors, professors and more shouldn't give passing grades simply because of his families status and money that passes hands during the process of entering a school or receive training or postions that he otherwise wouldn't be qualified. …

You say he's stupid because of what...mispronunciations? Stumbling a bit while speaking in public? I'm supposed to take your word for it and listen to YOU because YOU'RE so smart, and yet you can't even use the wright werds. Sounds a bit hypocritical to me.

OrangeCrest said:
…Oh, and learn the proper uses of the terms "passed", "pass", and "past".â€

Oh, you mean like “priviledged,†and privileged? When did the word "yeahright" become a single word? You also may want to note that "past". is incorrect punctuation as well, unless you are from England. The correct punctuation is "past."…

Yes, I realize the punctuation belongs in the quotes. I left it out intentionally. :) Who'd you have to check with to find that out? And yes, I MEANT to use the "word" yeahright. Did you MEAN to say pass and passed instead of past?

OrangeCrest said:
I don’t recall seeing that this board required MLA styled formal writing and proof reading on top of that…

Should we use footnotes and have biographies as well?…

Don't be an idiot..Oh, that's wright...Yoo can't help it.

This is my last post on this subject...We're not getting anwhere, and I'm really getting tired of wasting my time on you. You've fallen hook, line, and sinker for the anti-Bush rhetoric....
 
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oneness said:
You say he's stupid because of what...mispronunciations? Stumbling a bit while speaking in public? I'm supposed to take your word for it and listen to YOU because YOU'RE so smart, and yet you can't even use the wright werds. Sounds a bit hypocritical to me.



Yes, I realize the punctuation belongs in the quotes. I left it out intentionally. :) Who'd you have to check with to find that out? And yes, I MEANT to use the "word" yeahright. Did you MEAN to say pass and passed instead of past?



Don't be an idiot..Oh, that's wright...Yoo can't help it.

This is my last post on this subject...We're not getting anwhere, and I'm really getting tired of wasting my time on you. You've fallen hook, line, and sinker for the anti-Bush rhetoric....

"...supposed to take your word for it and listen to YOU because YOU'RE so smart..."

Aaahhh.... No... Since you seemed to be so convinced you are making the right choice for our country's future, I have to assume you have made the same efforts as I to why he is lost. I will admit, he was more coherent during this debate than the last time Gore kick his ass in the debate. I guess he learned something over the past four-years.

Pretty weak come back... Out of that whole entire post, this is all you got? Oh sorry, that is what Kerry said to Bush, huh?

"...Yes, I realize the punctuation belongs in the quotes. I left it out intentionally. :)..."

Sure you did... One of the most common mistakes for one who never studied past high school...

"...Who'd you have to check with to find that out?..."

Let's see, I really don't remember her name, it has been around 15-years now, but I would have to cite my professor in freshman comp (English 1A).

"...And yes, I MEANT to use the "word" yeahright..."

Again, Sure you did...

"...Did you MEAN to say pass and passed instead of past?..."

And you are refering toooo....

"...Don't be an idiot..Oh, that's wright...Yoo can't help it..."

Weak...

"This is my last post on this subject..."

Again, weak...

"...We're not getting anwhere, and I'm really getting tired of wasting my time on you..."

Hmmm... A Republican giving in? Oh, that's right... I'm also a Republican, but classified as a REAGAN REPUBLICAN!!

"...You've fallen hook, line, and sinker for the anti-Bush rhetoric..."

Your wearing the leash, not me. I put my country before my party, just like any "patriotic" American should obligate themselves to do.

My choice is being made through observation and experience.

Your's on the other hand appears to be like choosing an NFL team... No matter if they suck, you have to be that loyal fan that sticks with them through the thick and thin...

Isn't that nice of you...

Your come back is sad... Really sad...
 
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onecallpowerw

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You cant change a republican.....

Orange,

You can not change the mind of a true republican. Mark and Oneness are true republicans. My father in law puts it best....You vote for the party not the individual. This is their mindset.

Regardless how much Bush jr. screws up, these two will hold him to high honor. For what ? No one knows....They will still praise him.

Even after a nuclear holocaust, that we started, they will still praise the republican, regardless of how wrong he was to start with.

Its idiology. Not common sense. They can not seperate their religious beliefs vs. what is right and wrong. Example: Stem cell research....We all know that God put us here, we all know God gave us the means to excell, we all know that Stem Cell research could possibly save millions of lives.......Why are they against it ? Religious values. They belive a child after conception is a living human being. Even though they all know that this one UNBORN BEING could possibly save the lives of more than one.

Same thing with seperation of Government/Religion, The republicans are all for the seperation but the republicans push it on us.

So what am I:

I believe in the right to keep and bear arms.
I believe in a womens right to choose.
I believe in seperation of church and state.
I believe in religious freedom.

See, just on the above topics, a true republican will not waiver. They will stick to the religious right wing beliefs regardless of circumstance.

Its all a matter of right vs. wrong to me.

Republicans that vote for the party, just do not have a mind of their own. They follow the party. Regardless. You can not change them......

Let it rest.
 

Mark

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You obviously do not know me!

Most Republicans I know vote for the individuals that they believe
is the better choice for the office, and not just voting the party.

Talk about blind followers look at the Democratic party.
Who in their right mind could fathom for one second that
Kerry is fit to be President?

Is the hatred for Bush so strong that you would replace him
with just anyone? Is that putting country first? I don't think
so! You guys are blinded by your hatred.

Do I think Bush is the best choice for President.. NO!

Do I think Kerry is a good choice for President.. HELL NO!


Who knows I might choose to vote for a Democrat next election
if you guys can find a real candidate!


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onecallpowerw

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Its not the message.....

Its not not knowing you....Its what you have posted throughout the board that shows you are a die hard republican. Take a looks at what you last stated.....if (you guys)can find a real candidate. There ya go.....

And please tell me....why is kerry (not fit) to be president ?

Do you really believe in all the crap you read ? Do you really and I mean really understand our political process ? Do you really know what are in bills ?

Everyone agrees that Kerry is somewhat of a liberal. What has he really done wrong ?

He went to vietnam while your buddy was dodging. He left vietnam and voiced his United States right as a citizen to freedom of speech. Do you think for one minute the atrocities in vietnam did not happen ? Look, you can not draft everyone and their brother including 90% of our urban areas and not get quite a few that will rape, murder and plunder a community.

Most that served in vietnam were from our own urban areas. Such as los angelas, washington dc, chicago, new york etc.......How much crime do you have in your area. Hell for these bad guys, vietnam was a place to be. Give me a break if you dont think for 1 minute the things kerry voiced did not happen.

Even now, the top republicans (all) agree, vietnam should not have happened.

Lets look at the 87 billion that kerry voted against. You republicans all think the same and forget about the obvious. If the soilders were without armor, why in the hell did we send them there without it. Its not like we did not have time before we ended up policing IRAQ.

So, what was it that makes kerry so bad ?
 

Mark

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I see I am wasting my time on this topic.
I forgot you can't teach a pig to crow.

<i> wastes your time and annoys the pig</i>

Singing Pig?


<i> Please do not take offense, I am not calling you a pig.</i> :)
 

Dale Walkowsk

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IMO Onecall is right.
I've experienced this with a couple topics. There was a thread a ways back that brought up gay marriage and it immediately got polorized and I think it was Walt G (sorry if I'm wrong it was a ways back) mentioned he stayed away from topics of religion or politics because they were such dividing topics and are better off left alone.

Oneness (I think) responded with ..he didn't think that was true and people should be able to disscuss the reasons for their convictions without any problems...thats what a mature dissussion is...no need to get offended and irrational. All well and fine...I agree with that so I ask a question and the responce almost immediately turns into a ..."I don't have to listen to this crap....liberal atheist scum... this is the way it is...PERIOD...end of dissussion."..WHAT????...this was after 1 post!

There was no mature disscussion sharing any personal reasoning as to how a person arrives at their beliefs...its seems much more a ...I'm right...you're wrong...shut up. Which is all well and fine I can respect that. It just seems to be the height of hypocracy to invite the expression of opposing views in a disscussion but when it happens in reality to respond with that kind of "My minds made up...shut the F... up idiot". It struck me as strange.
 
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OrangeCrest

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I believe in the right to keep and bear arms.
I believe in a women’s right to choose.
I believe in separation of church and state.
I believe in religious freedom.

See, just on the above topics, a true republican will not waiver. They will stick to the religious right wing beliefs regardless of circumstance.

Actually, it is the Republicans that fight tooth and nail to keep your right to bear arms… They even take it to the extreme…

Also, religious right wing beliefs is what has surfaced and was attempting to surface for many years prior to Bush. He just so happened to finally be the one who was able to break through the door.

Believe it or not, there were worse right-wingers that would have made him look like a day in the park.

I also believe in your bullet points and also believe in the right of the gays being able to marry.

I, like Kerry, don’t approve of abortion, but will support a women and her right to choose.

I am a “real†Republican, being that President Reagan was the first president I voted for because of his strength and morals, values, and optimist mind set that changed the world toward a safer more positive world that you could be proud to be part of and honored that you were included in his life through being an American.

He made you proud to be an American and even though some countries had differences with him, still respected him as a man.

Jimmy Carter is what gave me chills and pure sickness toward how weak a president could ever be and is what ingrained the Republican title to my brain.

The Iranians kept our hostages up to the last day, until they found out that President Reagan was elected. They knew President Reagan was one that would rip them a part, they also knew Carter was so weak that if he were re-elected, the hostage drama would have continued and Carter would have still done nothing.

Even the Russians at the time said there was no way they could work with President Reagan, yet it was because of him, the cold war was brought to an end and the Berlin wall was brought down.

When it came to terrorism, President Reagan stated that any country that supported terrorist would be dealt with by the United States. Libya stated that they not only supported terrorist, but they trained them as well.

President Reagan responded by bombing Qaddafi's military headquarters and barracks in Tripoli.

Now we have Bush, who does not approach life as responsible and caring and level headed as President Reagan. He approaches world events as an out of control arrogant ass!!

He is like a bully on the block that harasses everyone and terrorizes everyone, including his own family.

Only thing is, he has the world’s only super-power with the world’s most elite weaponry and military personnel fighting for him as he hides out and says what a weak person Hussein was because he was telling his people fight and putting his people in harms way.

This makes me laugh and sick because at least Hussein was there with his people and not evading his country while it was under attack. Bush showed his true colors during the 9/11 attacks, he couldn’t hide because the media kept giving away his hiding spots. This really makes me want to PUKE!!

He makes me feel the same way as I do for Carter… YECK!! EWWW!! DAMN HE IS WEAK!!!

Also, what was Bush doing during the attacks on Iraq? Hiding out in the basement of the White House telling the generals to attack while he sat there safe and secure, knowing there is absolutely nothing anyone could do to him.

President David Dwight Eisenhower was a five-star-general that was another Republican that Bush should take some notes from.

Bush is NOT a president that should be given the opportunity to destroy this country of ours, be it its economy or its reputation, this man needs to be removed from office so that the healing process can begin.

Anyone can be put in office, and the world would accept him or her and work with him or her to bring the world back to pre-Bush status: Peace!

And yes Mark, I hate him that much!!
 
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Dan S

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OrangeCrest said:
I also believe in your bullet points and also believe in the right of the gays being able to marry.

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Considering where you live I can believe that one ^^

Why on earth would you think that it is alright for the same sex to marry.

Just think if your momma or daddy thought that way and if they were queer you would not be around snapping pictures. Or if they thought it was okay to have an abortion.


No -words can make me believe that that it is right for man man or woman woman to hold our sacred right as man and woman. It is just plain stupid.

VOTE FOR BUSH AND SPRAY WATER

4 MORE YEARS
4 MORE YEARS
4 MORE YEARS
4 MORE YEARS !!!

Just think what will hapPen to our country if Hillary runs

And lets say she makes it>>>>>>>>>>> what will Billy be called ( first man )

I can see it now......... Come on Hill let me have my chair and office back Monica is going to stop by.
 

oneness

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Dale Walkowsk said:
Oneness (I think) responded with ..he didn't think that was true and people should be able to disscuss the reasons for their convictions without any problems...thats what a mature dissussion is...no need to get offended and irrational. All well and fine...I agree with that so I ask a question and the responce almost immediately turns into a ..."I don't have to listen to this crap....liberal atheist scum... this is the way it is...PERIOD...end of dissussion."..WHAT????...this was after 1 post!
There was no mature disscussion sharing any personal reasoning as to how a person arrives at their beliefs...its seems much more a ...I'm right...you're wrong...shut up. Which is all well and fine I can respect that. It just seems to be the height of hypocracy to invite the expression of opposing views in a disscussion but when it happens in reality to respond with that kind of "My minds made up...shut the F... up idiot". It struck me as strange.

Well, I went to check, and it appears the threat is gone. I do recall saying that folks can, and should be able to discuss anything without screaming and yelling and getting overly personal. Does that mean I'll always be able to resist tossing an insult at someone? Hardly....Nor do I recall saying anything about someone being liberal atheist scum...It doesn't sound like something I'd say, so I doubt I said it. Please post some sort of proof of this or stop attributing things to me that you can't prove I said. Thanks.

And yes, I can have my mind made up and still enter into a rational mature discussion with someone about what my mind is made up about...I can even end the discussion (or my part in it) without being a hypocrite (as I tried to do here).

This thread will go likely go back and forth until well past 11/2 without anyone's mind being changed, and I'm just tired of wasting MY time with it. Y'all feel free. MY mind is CERTAINLY made up. :)
 

squirtgun

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Carter may have been weak when he was in office,but he has proven to be one of the greatest diplomats of our time.
Bush isn't prefect and may not be the best candidate,but Kerry is spineless when it comes to military issues.He has stated that he will refer all military action to the UN.He has gone so far as to make a comment that stated he believed terrorists are a nuisance(sp).We were attacked on our own soil,I hardly think that is just a nuisance.
Recent polls of active military show 80% support Bush for re-election.While to rest of the country is split 50/50 out troops know who has the balls to stand and deliver.
Neither are the best candidate,IMO Bush is the guy for now.Vote for your candidate and pray it be the correct decision.Just do everyone a favor after 11/2 no matter who wins,shut the hell up about it and move on to something else.
 
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OrangeCrest

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Dan S said:
Just think if your momma or daddy thought that way and if they were queer you would not be around snapping pictures. Or if they thought it was okay to have an abortion.

It is a chance you take in life… Just think also of all the world leaders and geniuses that were never given the chance because the women chose to go to school rather than start having children at the beginning of her menstrual cycle… Or the world heroes that could have discovered the cure to many diseases because women only had three children rather than 20.

Every time a women has her menstrual cycle is the lost chance of a positive or a negative birth, Barbara Bush had the misfortune of pushing the envelope and thousands paid with their lives because G H Bush had to get frisky one night and couldn’t just pull out or wear a freaking condom!

Condom prevent abortions, gays don’t have children without the assistance of straights!
 
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squirtgun said:
He has gone so far as to make a comment that stated he believed terrorists are a nuisance(sp).We were attacked on our own soil,I hardly think that is just a nuisance.

Terrorism a Nuisance?


A Republican party ad appeared this week inviting viewers to think Kerry considers terrorism a "nuisance" and suggests he's too "weak."

The image on screen shows a picture of Kerry with the words: "Terrorists are a nuisance. . . like gambling and prostitution."

But Kerry never said he considered terrorism to be a nuisance, he said Americans would feel safe once terrorism was reduced to a nuisance. (The announcer correctly paraphrases Kerry as saying "we have to get back" to such a condition, but the visual images in the ad will overpower the announcer's spoken words for many, and the announcer goes on as though Kerry actually had said terrorism isn't much of a threat at present.)

Kerry's words are taken from a New York Times Magazine interview published Oct. 10. When asked what it would take to make Americans feel safe again,

Kerry actually said this:

Kerry: We have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they're a nuisance. . . As a former law-enforcement person, I know we're never going to end prostitution. We're never going to end illegal gambling. But we're going to reduce it, organized crime, to a level where it isn't on the rise. It isn't threatening people's lives every day, and fundamentally, it's something that you continue to fight, but it's not threatening the fabric of your life.

That's actually not much different from what Bush himself said Aug. 30 on the NBC Today Show:

Q: Do you really think we can win this war of terror--on terror, for example, in the next four years?

Bush: I have never said we can win it in four years.

Q: No, I'm just saying, can we win it? Do you see that?

Bush: I don't--I don't think you can win it, but I think you can create conditions so that the--those who use terror as a tool are less acceptable in parts of the world, let's put it that way.

Both men were attacked by partisan opponents for expressing these sentiments, and have since grown less candid about the prospects for eradicating terrorism entirely. Both have hardened their words.

Bush says he will "win" the war on terror.

Kerry says he "will kill the terrorists."
 
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Dan S said:
Subject: Records
2004 Election Voter Guide

Depending on the way you lean, the following information
could have a bearing on decisions you make in November 2004.

Issues of Importance = *

* Gay Marriage:
President Bush is opposed.
John Kerry favors.

* Partial-Birth Abortion:
President Bush is opposed.
John Kerry favors.

* Restoring voluntary prayer in the public schools:
President Bush Favors.
John Kerry is Opposed.

* Mel Gibson & the making of a film about Christ:
President Bush supports Gibson.
John Kerry participated in Left's assault on Gibson, suggesting
possible anti-Semitism even though Kerry had not seen the film.

* Boy Scouts' belief in God and not allowing
Homosexual Scout Leaders:
President Bush supports Boy Scouts' stand.
John Kerry opposes boy Scouts' stand.

* Asking for God's blessing on America:
President Bush often asks God to bless America in his speeches.
John Kerry attacks Bush for mentioning God so often.

* Judges:
President bush says "We need common-sense judges who believe
our rights are derived from God."
John Kerry insists on judges who support the ACLU's radical
anti-Christian, anti-God, anti-family agenda.
John Kerry is insistent on blocking President Bush's
federal judge appointments.

* Overall Record:
President Bush does not vote on issues before Congress
but, based on his publicly stated positions, would
receive an 85% conservative rating.

John Kerry, according to the highly respected,
politically-neutral National Journal,
rates Kerry the most liberal U. S. Senator in 2003 -
- more liberal than Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton.

With help from you and many others, we hope to
distribute 25,000,000 copies of this Voter information
across the United States.



:) It is worth repeating :)
 
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