put your money where your mouth is

[Jon]

Ok so none of Steve's products were used if I am following this post correctly, right.

Tim I have seen you around for a long time and I believe you know how important taking both before and after pictures are.

If I don't do that and come morning some customer calls me saying you did not clean my dumpster pad or the side walkway etc. I can simply explain that I did and as you know I have the before and after pictures dated to prove it.

Don't get me wrong not all do take pictures but in this case had you taken them this whole thing about others not believing you as to the condition it was in before and the time it took you to clean it would not be an issue.

I am not questioning your time since I don't do homes but I know to many who do and most the guys and gals here including you and my suggestion to all is to truly just drop this whole thing before it gets ugly again and move on.

Is there really any point in everyone continuing to try and prove points here?

Would a Mod either lock this or totally remove it so everyone can move on and just let this go?

 

[OrangeCrest]

If it was Cody it would be all in Orange text, LOL!~!

 

[timhays]

Ok so none of Steve's products were used if I am following this post correctly, right.

Tim I have seen you around for a long time and I believe you know how important taking both before and after pictures are.

If I don't do that and come morning some customer calls me saying you did not clean my dumpster pad or the side walkway etc. I can simply explain that I did and as you know I have the before and after pictures dated to prove it.

Don't get me wrong not all do take pictures but in this case had you taken them this whole thing about others not believing you as to the condition it was in before and the time it took you to clean it would not be an issue.

I am not questioning your time since I don't do homes but I know to many who do and most the guys and gals here including you and my suggestion to all is to truly just drop this whole thing before it gets ugly again and move on.

Is there really any point in everyone continuing to try and prove points here?

Would a Mod either lock this or totally remove it so everyone can move on and just let this go?

jon when i first started i used to take brfore/after pics to provide to new customers,or for marketing purposes.

now i am so busy and clean so much stuff i just dont have time,im running from one job to the next as fast as i can get there. i cant remember the last time i was stiffed. i can see however that they would be useful.

ive allready dropped it.

 

[oneness]

that wasnt me i never threatened anyone,.you seem to be the one causing the problem mike please leave me alone i dont have the patience to deal with your crap.

Then it must be a conspiracy, because EVERYONE involved in the thread that night or who had a chance to review it before it was removed claims you did. You want to be left alone, but you also want to post statements about what happened that are apparently false. Like I said, get some help with that anger thing. It isn't healthy.

 

[Everett]

I have for the most part stayed out of this both on Steve's BB and here. I first removed the link from the PWNA site because posting the link to such profanities and threats is the same as if it were posted on that particular BB. The thread got out of hand and should have been an embarrassment to all. I spoke with Steve and support his BB and his decision as I do this and the others. We all know that at times people cross the line. In this case that is what happened here. It is as Dale Millere posted about the threats and the profanities. Tim, I directly saw where you alluded to putting a gun to someone's head. This is completely inappropriate and uncalled for. There are better ways to make a point when challenged. It is not for me to say what you should or shouldn't do but, you would be better served to apologize and and be accountable for your comments. Stating you were a gentleman and denying your comments is completely false. The folks chiming in here are portraying what happened, not you. I further think that whenever anyone posts they should consider the hard work and time that the owners and moderators put into the running of these BB's. What happened on Steve's BB was appalling.

 

[Dan S]

With all the carp from other bb's .................... why on earth would you guys bring it here?

 

[Bob Gates]

Not having a "dog in this race' I suppose I should not comment...However; I would like to hold the dubious distinction of posting the last comment on this subject..."May we move on gentlemen"

 

[Beth]

Dan S,
Great question. Ask Tim. He began the thread here and on 3 other BBS's that I am aware of other than Steves...

Beth

 

[Larry L.]

Out of respect to all of you and as ask the thread is closed,thanks for not getting out of hand in the thread.