Waste Water control certification school - April 29 & 30th in San Diego, CA

[Sirocco Jerry]

I have been trying to help my customers, in the showroom for over 25 years..
Every time a request for assistance comes to me, I try to help THAT individual with HIS issues or plans the BEST I can..
and as thoroughly as possible. I have spent WAY more time than my accountant wants me to,
but I enjoy helping people,
and I enjoy the praise, and I enjoy the knowing my engineering, troubleshooting,
..and coaching efforts are appreciated.
EVERY time a customer has called, or asked me questions in my showroom I get a "thank you"
I plan to profit, but my process-proceedure still remains..
help everyone I can, that is interested in what I want to help with..
A symbiotic "customer-supplier relationship"
..a sustainable one..
Now, realizing this industry is tripping all over itself in every aspect of the most important change of all..
conversion from the "power-wash industry"..
to the "Enviro-Cleaning industry"
You all talk about it every day.
I am simply triing to make it easier for everyone that "wants to listen",
gets a GOOD chance at a respectable position within this changing industry.
Everyone will form their own opinions,
everyone will have their own interpretation,
I'm just trying to bring the BEST quality education into a sesmi-public forum.
Our educational effort is NOT about Sirocco..
it IS about understaning WHat CAN be done, how Easily it can be done,
and how PROFITable it can be.
I am a teacher.
If you would like to be in my classroom, come, and behave.
If you don't want to come, don't.
And expressing you opinion without knowing who I am, nor what I'm about is juvenile.
There are major changes happening in this industry that will affect all of us.
I am trying to keep the new guys out of trouble,
and the elders profitable.
Pick a perspective that "Works" for you.
I have a family to feed.. Respectfully.

 

[Doug Rucker]

Jerry, couldn't agree with you more. There are many people out there that are just starting into this business and need some guidance and direction other than being told to hit the 'search' button. They need to see it being done so they can VISUALIZE it and experience the process. People need to see it being done. Just hearing about what a person does or has IMO doesn't really help the ones trying to learn.

Keep up the good work Jerry and be encouraged.

 

[Doug Rucker]

I already asked about this certification. Other then getting this cert to say you " Took a class to learn how to use Jerry's /Sirocco equipment or to see a demonstration of the units that you may or may not want". There is no added value to the certification on a professional level.

If your sole purpose is to learn how to use Jerry's equipment, then I think this would be a good thing and those who are interested in buying his units should attend. I think this would be a very good thing for contractors who want to learn how to use a Sirocco system. To understand its limits and strengths.

On the same token, one needs to be aware that No Government agency that I talked to recently here in N. California recognize a Sirocco certification. If you are going for the sole purpose to advertise that you are certified by Jerry's company, I would re-think the reasoning.

No Government agency [/B]that I talked to recently here in N. California recognize a Sirocco certification. If you are going for the sole purpose to advertise that you are certified by Jerry's company, I would re-think the reasoning

Wouldn't that be true of all 50 states. I think it would be called a conflict of interest.

 

[Clean County]

I think some of you guys are making this to be more then it really is. I support Jerry to have a certification class because he has an excellent reputation. I wouldnt support some kid who just bought a HD PW and now he wants to write a certification course just to make money.

Jerry to me is a true professional and he is well respected so whats wrong with him offering a certification course?? Nothing. More people of his calibar should right certification classes so some of us contractors can take them and not only will we learn alot we can market our certifications and if for whatever reason you get a ticket to clean no matter how you slice it and dice it, it will look good for you that you went to these classes because it expanded your knowledge. The more courses like this that you have the better it is for you. There is no ONE source to go that is the end all with this because the EPA is not going to promote anyone. Its probably against the law for them to do that since there a faction of the GOV't and it would be unfair practice.

The more education you have and you can market that the more professional your business will look and the ultimitley the more jobs you will get on average.

I can think of at least 5-6 guys if not more that can come up with Certification classes and I would recommend them all.

Go get em Jerry. Keep on keeping on and helping this industry and if you can stay profitable doing it then that makes you a smart man. Go for it.

 

[tonyshelton]

Tony, How is your Sonitx Certification classes going?

Tony Shelton of Sonitx located in Las Vegas, Nevada has advertised that he was charging for his in depth knowledge and his " Hands on approach" as well.

Tony, What is your current fee for your companies 2 Day Sonitx Certification class?

Which states are your graduates certifications recognized to do your line of work?

I have been to Tony's 2 day class and learned allot.

First, the class you took was an introductory class offered as a favor to Ron Musgraves, NCE and PWI as a "thank you" for all the free and low cost information offered at the roundtables and BBS's at that time. I have never "certified anyone on the two day introductory class. How much did you pay for my class Jim?

I've turned down all requests since July of last year. My classes ranged from $2000 to $3000 per attendee on average for the 3-5 day class. (Except for large groups which received discounts and were trained only on specific aspects they were interested in)

The fee was set based on how much it cost us to halt operations for the period of training. Since the classes were rare, I still had to dedicate at least one week for the whole thing including preparation and finding new sites to train where we could demo that were sufficiently dirty to provide for good training visuals.

So the answer to your question is zero. Our current fee is zero. I have completed enough training to cover over 80 percent of the entire US and parts of Canada with our method of service and have the ability to call on any of them when work comes up in their area through our network. There's no reason you couldn't do the same thing. You have a proprietary method, have spent the time and research to perfect it and should be taking advantage of that.

My "certification" declares that the attendee has been through my class and learned OUR method of operation.

Whether our certification is "recognized" by anyone is of no concern to me or my students. It is simply a declaration. Here is the definition of "certification" if that helps:

certification - confirmation that some fact or statement is true through the use of documentary evidence

So I guess my "certification" would be accepted in all 50 states. It simply "states" that the attendee has been trained in our method of cleaning. Are there any states that would deny that statement?

For example, you might see an air conditioning company called "Joe's HVAC" with a small "Carrier" or "York" certification sticker on their truck. No one is taking that certification and claiming that they should be the only ones allowed to work on Carrier or York systems in that state. It is simply stating that they went the extra mile, took the classes and became certified by those manufacturers as trained in the ability to work on them.

Are there some states that deny that the training has actually occurred? I'm confused.

 

[Clean County]

First, the class you took was an introductory class offered as a favor to Ron Musgraves, NCE and PWI as a "thank you" for all the free and low cost information offered at the roundtables and BBS's at that time. I have never "certified anyone on the two day introductory class. How much did you pay for my class Jim?

I've turned down all requests since July of last year. My classes ranged from $2000 to $3000 per attendee on average for the 3-5 day class. (Except for large groups which received discounts and were trained only on specific aspects they were interested in)

The fee was set based on how much it cost us to halt operations for the period of training. Since the classes were rare, I still had to dedicate at least one week for the whole thing including preparation and finding new sites to train where we could demo that were sufficiently dirty to provide for good training visuals.

So the answer to your question is zero. Our current fee is zero. I have completed enough training to cover over 80 percent of the entire US and parts of Canada with our method of service and have the ability to call on any of them when work comes up in their area through our network. There's no reason you couldn't do the same thing. You have a proprietary method, have spent the time and research to perfect it and should be taking advantage of that.

My "certification" declares that the attendee has been through my class and learned OUR method of operation.

Whether our certification is "recognized" by anyone is of no concern to me or my students. It is simply a declaration. Here is the definition of "certification" if that helps:

certification - confirmation that some fact or statement is true through the use of documentary evidence

So I guess my "certification" would be accepted in all 50 states. It simply "states" that the attendee has been trained in our method of cleaning. Are there any states that would deny that statement?

For example, you might see an air conditioning company called "Joe's HVAC" with a small "Carrier" or "York" certification sticker on their truck. No one is taking that certification and claiming that they should be the only ones allowed to work on Carrier or York systems in that state. It is simply stating that they went the extra mile, took the classes and became certified by those manufacturers as trained in the ability to work on them.

Are there some states that deny that the training has actually occurred? I'm confused.

That pretty much explains it when it comes to certifications. IF the Person or company has a good reputation and is considered by many to be the place to go to for learning about your trade then it all makes sense. Somewhere there is mass confusion when it comes to Certification classes. Yes in some fields there are classes that are recognized by certain agencies as the place to go to for a certification that your job recognizes. Thats great. I think that's smart business plus it covers you to a certain extent. It covers you when others search you out to hire your company because it gives your company recognition that it believes in educating its employees. Thats a huge plus. It also covers your company in case your about to get sued. Any and all info is very helpful when your company is brought to court on real charges or frivilous charges. Alot of times lawsuits are frivilous especially now in this down economy. No easier way for a dirt bag to make money then to try and sue your company so they can get out of paying you the hard earned money your suppose to recieve. Everything counts in the court of law. That aside certifications are an extension to what it is your learning about. Since we are business people here it seems wise to then market your certifications because someone will hire you based on the fact that you are showing them your company sends its employees to be educated in there line of work.

I think that some people are getting this concept criss crossed in there brains. There looking for something that is just not there. There is no "One" place to learn in this industry just like there is no "One" college to learn from.

 

[New Look]

Venue is set, make your reservations !!

Location: Crowne Plaza Hotel - MISSION VALLEY
at..
2270 HOTEL CIRCLE NORTH, SAN DIEGO, CA 92108
Sign in 8:00 AM, Start 9 AM to 4PM Friday, to noon Saturday
for a Room Call: 1-800-953-5447
Code Word: “Pressure Washer” .. .. Room Rate $ 99.00 per nite
.. a very nice Hawaiian theme resort,
10 minutes from the beach, 5 minutes to Old Town or Sea World,

Will be there and looking forward to it!! Wife is already packing

 

[Sirocco Jerry]

Wash Water Control BootCamp is this FRIDAY !

Wash Water Control certification school
April 29 & 30th in San Diego, CA
$125.00 per person ($139 at the door) Registration Deadline 4-15-11
Location: Crowne Plaza Hotel - MISSION VALLEY
2270 HOTEL CIRCLE NORTH, SAN DIEGO, CA 92108
Sign in 8:00 AM, Start 9 AM to 4PM Friday, to noon Saturday

the CORRECT PHONE NUMBER.. for a Room Call: 1-800-972-2802
Code Word: “Pressure Washerâ€￾ Rate $99.00 per nite

 

[Doug Rucker]

Wash Water Control certification school
April 29 & 30th in San Diego, CA
$125.00 per person ($139 at the door) Registration Deadline 4-15-11
Location: Crowne Plaza Hotel - MISSION VALLEY
2270 HOTEL CIRCLE NORTH, SAN DIEGO, CA 92108
Sign in 8:00 AM, Start 9 AM to 4PM Friday, to noon Saturday

the CORRECT PHONE NUMBER.. for a Room Call: 1-800-972-2802
Code Word: “Pressure Washer” Rate $99.00 per nite

This is gonna be a great event. Wish I could be there. Anyone that can make it should try to get to it. Jerry knows his stuff and is a wealth of knowledge for us Veterans and Newbies alike.

 

[Mark]

I was unable to attend this event, waiting to hear back from Carlos, who was there.

I am sure Carlos will give us a full report when he gets a chance.

 

[New Look]

To sump it up - Very informative weekend. Though my lack of hearing hampered my ability to hear everything, I was able to follow the power point presentation from Jerry.

Accommodations were great and the venue could not have been better - San Diego!

In speaking with Ron Musgraves and the gentlemen from PWA - Mike H., Paul H. and Daryl M....the waste water topic is a critical one for our industry and certainly Jerry's presentation came right on time, at least for me, in addressing and speaking on "make sense" approaches in our efforts to afford the contractor options in the waste water dept. I appreciated the onsite demo that Jerry offered. It validated everything mentioned about his equipment both prior to the training seminar and during the weekend. I know the hotel staff appreciate having clean sidewalks...LOL.

Also want to make a note that Tony S. brought up some very valid points about the CWA during the presentation. With that said, I also appreciate the one-on-one that he and I had. It was a good conversation and fruitful to say the least. Appreciate the "side bar" Tony!

Unbeknown to me at the time, Bettye and I on Sunday decided on our way home, to stop at Camp Pendelton for breakfast. It was awesome sitting down and sharing "chow" with United States Marines. Well, when we arrived home last night after 9:00 pm I couldn't help but hear that Bin Laden was killed by American Forces. How fitting that 12 hours earlier my wife and I were at Camp Pendelton.

Juan Carlos H.....it was great to finally meet you man. Keep plugging away at your business. You have the right attitude and you are definitely the "real deal". It was a privilege to met your wife and you!

I am still nursing my first cup of coffee so I will probably add more later in the day but overall it was money well spent. Some great giveaways.....I won some BT200 but opted to give it to a contractor from TX since I already have used and purchased BT200.

Trust everyone has a blessed week!!!!

 

[tonyshelton]

I had to leave early but at least got to see about half of day one. San Diego is a beautiful city. Jerry is a great guy with a wonderful family and he's always got his finger on the pulse of the industry.

It was nice to sit down and talk with Carlos with neither of us having any kind of agenda. He has a lot to offer the industry and has the energy and drive that many of us (including myself) are lacking.

With the various talents we all have as a collective group, if we could put aside all the personality conflicts, there's nothing we can't accomplish.

The events of 2009-10 were some of the most stressful and disheartening in all my years of entrepreneurship. From the economy taking a crap, to the lowest emotional point (the Myrtle Beach RT) and the lowest physical point (284 lbs and a stroke) I'm glad that time is behind me.

It's time to move forward. We need to fully educate ourselves on the structure of the laws we have to work under as well as their true reach. Once we fully understand it, we can collectively educate the local officials.

Most of us still think the EPA will come and fine a guy pressure washing a sidewalk. That's just not how it works. With all the talk about it, not a single soul has posted any proof. That's because it has never happened.

We still work under the veil of myths and rumors about astronomical fines and other such misinformation even though our very livelihood depends on our being legal. If we don't care enough to come to a full understanding of the law, how much more can we expect local officials to "dig" into the law for the truth for OUR benefit? It won't happen. They don't have the time to do it and would much rather hear "nothing down the drain but rain" because it's simple and it's catchy and it doesn't require any research.

We need to do the research and WE need to come up with the catchy phrases. We need to put aside any thoughts we might have that tempt us to continue the falsehoods in an effort to eliminate our less funded competitors. They have families to feed too. It that's your cup of tea, please move on to one of the many industries like HVAC, Commercial Plumbing, etc that require high entry funding and licensing (but yet still somehow only produce income that is marginally comparable to ours). This industry is one last bastion of true capitalism. I hope we can keep it that way.

Finally, Jerry, was a great host! We got to meet some local San Diego guys and I think we might be seeing more of them on the boards.

Thanks Jerry!

 

[Doug Rucker]

Great post's Tony and Carlos, thanks for sharing.

 

[Gogreenwash]

Carlos thanks it was also awesome to meet you as well had a great time at the show lots of great info and great folks to say the least
and hope to keep on meeting great people in the industry in up coming events if you guys have one up in your neck of the woods ill be there.

 

[Clean County]

Great post's Tony and Carlos, thanks for sharing.

Yup couldn't agree more. Sometimes the net gets spun out of control but in person its still much better to get the "Real Feel" of what its all about. Wish I could have made this RT but since I couldn't the "Net" was the next best thing to read about it[2cool]

 

[New Look]

Yup couldn't agree more. Sometimes the net gets spun out of control but in person its still much better to get the "Real Feel" of what its all about. Wish I could have made this RT but since I couldn't the "Net" was the next best thing to read about it[2cool]

John...you would of had fun. Beach was just down the street...good food.....good company all the way around!!!

 

[New Look]

Carlos thanks it was also awesome to meet you as well had a great time at the show lots of great info and great folks to say the least
and hope to keep on meeting great people in the industry in up coming events if you guys have one up in your neck of the woods ill be there.

Same here Carlos

 

[Sirocco Jerry]

Thanks for making it fun for us too ! ..and the weather was PERfect.

(My "right-hand") Roger's hooked.. He "insisted" I let him go do the one in Kentucky..
His brother lives up the road, and he has several years experience is conducting seminars anyway.

We'll do it again here in San Diego by end of this year !

 

[Doug Rucker]

Glad to hear you had a great event Jerry. Heard nothing but GREAT things about it.

 

[Ron Musgraves]

Yay finally hope to see all the great people from forum there.

Carlos have you used the Cert yet?